| Author | Message | ||
     Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 566 Registered: 12-2004 |
Please post any information here... | ||
| sher Smith New member Username: Truley Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2006 |
has anyone had surgery at PLENITAS in BA? If so I'd like to hear how it went, i'm considering going there in the near future, thanks! | ||
| Jeanne Zella New member Username: Jeanne Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006 |
Well, I think I figured this thing out. Can anyone who has traveled to Argentina for any type of surgery give me a heads up about Plentias. Are they reputable, do they do what they say, are they an honest organization, and do they standby their work? My friend and I are looking into possible usage of them and just want to cover all the bases. Would appreciate any input from anyone pros & cons. Thanks | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 797 Registered: 12-2004 |
Not much information out there, I am afraid... http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?IdxSeccion=1&Idx=213776 http://www.beautysurg.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2165.html Infobae would not publish a note unless they consider Plenitas a serious organization. But this doesn't mean much either. (Message edited by admin on October 20, 2006) | ||
| quovadis johnson New member Username: Shorty Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2006 |
Hello my name is quovadis I visited plenitas in april.I had to return home the next day family emergency.I havent received my money back yet.Have anybody else had this problem? what can I do? | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 836 Registered: 12-2004 |
Quovadis, welcome! Do you have a receipt for the services paid but not rendered? Did they give you anything in writing about your claim/refund before you left the country? Is there anyone down there that can help you? This type of situations are highly risky in Argentina as there is too much bureaucracy and paperwork. They have this number on their site, toll free: USA & Canada > 1-800-761-5795 They also have this on that site, but you probably know already: ++++ Cancellation policy If the patient decides to cancel the trip after having paid the deposit: The deposit will not be returned under any circumstance. However, the patient may use the amount as a credit. This credit will expire in 6 months. If the patient decides to cancel the trip after having paid the total package’s cost: He/she will be returned the remaining percentage of the package’s total cost (the deposit will not be returned under any circumstance). A second option would be to use the amount paid as a credit, that is, postpone the trip. This credit will expire in 6 months. ++++ AND +++ Cancellation of the service once in Argentina If, once in Argentina, the patient decides not to undergo the procedure requested, he will be reimbursed the amount corresponding to the procedure, excluding the deposit and the expenses incurred. If the professional advises the patient not to undergo the procedure he/she requested due to medical reasons, all the expenses incurred until the moment the physician makes this decision will be charged, but the rest will be returned to the patient. In none of these cases the refund includes administrative costs of canceling the services or in which the company may have incurred. The term of the refund is subject to the time of Argentinean banking formalities. The patient will be informed about the expenses incurred. If special supplies were bought for the patient (prostheses or bandages, for example), he/she can take them with him/her. In none of these cases does the reimbursement include administrative costs incurred by company or costs generated by the cancellation itself. The time it will take to make the reimbursement is subject to Argentina's banking system. +++ I wish you great luck. | ||
| Jude OHara New member Username: Jude1971 Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2006 |
Yes, I have a dossier of information on Plenitas gathered from many ex patients and it was one of the things that led us to set up a non profit charity organisation to help others not to have to go through things that our team members have already gone through. If you would allow me the liberty of posting a little about the Charity and how they help. Our website has all the information you might need but to summarise: I would like to let you know about a Charity Foundation set up specifically to help those of us needing unbiased and non commercial advice about what surgeon to choose, and to navigate the minefield of medical tourism companies. If you are looking for advice then do please contact us, we have no vested interest in referring particular surgeons to you as we are a non profit charity and exist solely via the donations of our patrons and satisfied patients AestheticArgentina is a non-profit referral and support service in partnership with The International Aesthetic Foundation. We also serve as a peer advisory network connecting you with patients who have had direct personal experience with the procedure or doctor you may be considering. We offer: Expert guidance at no cost to those in search of cosmetic or re-constructive treatments An unbiased alternative to the commercial interests of "medical tourism" Financial support to further the important work of our partner charities in Latin America via donations received from around the world. AestheticArgentina is not a commercial service. Read "Our Story" at our website for more about us and why we are free. We offer our services at no cost whether or not you use the doctors we recommend - As a result of our own personal experiences in the world of plastic surgery, we know first-hand the devastation that can come from looking into a mirror only to find a stranger staring back. We have learned the hard way -- with our guidance, you won´t have to. We are here to help you make the right choices. I am not here to criticise other medical tourism providers in Buenos Aires - suffice to say that all of us on the team at AestheticArgentina have used the surgeons and have had procedures at the largest providers and were unsatisfied (not to say disfigured in some cases) and are doing what we can to make sure others do NOT have to suffer in the same way. A fantastic focus of the project is that we are raising funds and awareness for our partner charities. Our website has all the details but if you have any queries whatsoever please do not hesitate to contact me directly Jude OHara. More information on my profile. (Message edited by admin on December 11, 2006) | ||
| KATHRYN ROSE New member Username: K_rose Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2006 |
HELLO, MY NAME IS K. ROSE. JUST RETURNED FROM PLENITAS IN ARGENTINA ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. HAD A FACEFIFT, HAIR TRANSPLANT(2 SESSIONS), AND LIPO(UPPER BACK, WAIST, ETC). EVERYTHING WENT WELL FOR ME, BUT I PRACTICALLY SLEPT TO HEAL OR WAS IN BED (WATCHING TELEVISION) TO HEAL AT ALL AVAILABLE TIMES. WANTED BREAST UPLIFT, BUT MY BLOOD COUNT HAD WENT DOWN. DECIDED TO COME BACK HOME TO HEAL. WILL BE GOING BACK IN SIX MONTHS FOR THE REST. ARGENTINA IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT ONLY SEEN IT IN A CAB ON THE WAY TO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR THE HOSPITAL. MOST PEOPLE DID FINE WITH THEIR OPERATIONS. MANY MOVED AROUND MUCH TO QUICKLY, GOING OUT SHOPPING, ETC. AND CREATED COMPLICATIONS. SOME WERE NOT PREPARED FOR THE INTENSITY OF THEIR OPERATION. TUMMY TUCKS AND FACELIFTS ARE NOT LIGHTWEIGHT OPERATIONS. MY FACELIFT WAS MUCH MORE SEVERE THAN ANTICIPATED EVEN THOUGH I HAD SEEN THE PROCEDURE ON TELEVISION. NONE THE LESS, I AM DOING WELL. MY HUSBAND SAID THE FACELIFT TOOK TWENTY YEARS OFF MY LOOKS. IN SIX MONTHS YOU WON'T ABLE TO SEE MY SCALP BECAUSE OF MY HAIR IMPLANTS. LIPO TOOK EXACTLY 15 POUNDS OFF DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND MY BODY. I'M STILL HEALING. BUT YEAAAAAAAAAH! | ||
| Jude OHara New member Username: Jude1971 Post Number: 8 Registered: 12-2006  |
Thanks Kathryn. If you ever need further cosmetic surgery please contact us first, we are a non profit charity and can put you in touch with the finest surgeons in Argentina and you don´t have to pay the $2,000USD "administration" fee that is often charged by Medical Tourism providers. More importantly, our satisfied clients often make a small discretionary donation after their surgeries and this helps children in Argentina who desperately need our support. http://www.aestheticargentina.org/children.php The surgeons we work with are all board certified and our Medical Director is highly respected, being the number 2 chief of staff of the Argentine Medical Association. Surgeons with integrity and reputations to maintain tend not to work with commercial money making enterprises like Plenitas, so its great you had a good experience but medical tourism can be a minefield. Many thanks Jude Founder www.aestheticargentina.org | ||
| Tom Advanced Member Username: Diverdown48 Post Number: 302 Registered: 6-2006  |
Congratulations Kathryn. And welcome to our gourp. Please keep us updated on your progress. And thank you Jude for the web site. | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 937 Registered: 12-2004 |
Not familiar with this area at all but a general comment. Doctors in Argentina are excellent. The major risk getting this done abroad -most likely anywhere in South America- will be your inability to sue if something goes wrong. Something to consider as no matter how outstanding a practitioner is, things can happen. | ||
| Brenda Irving New member Username: Downtheyfall Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2007 |
I had plastic surgery in Argentina. (Message edited by admin on January 22, 2007) | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 957 Registered: 12-2004 |
Brenda, at first I thought you were well intentioned. But after reading your 6 posts I can only think of this as an attempt to drive traffic away. It doesn't look like you are ready to discuss the subject here, I am afraid... | ||
| Brenda Irving New member Username: Downtheyfall Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2007 |
I am sincere, and not promoting anything, i am answering the e-mails as people contact me, I even give some of them my phone number, if they want to call. what else am i suppose to do ? I haven't mentioned any names because i don't know if that is allowed or not , I have been there and i have had it done, i want to share my experience with any one i can to help them out with as much information i have knowledge in to share. Argentina has won me over, and i just want to share it with as many people as possible...............what is the best way to do it..... my sincere intent was to help, from someone whom has current hands on experience,I spent 20 days there, i just loved it so much i'm going back.. I am sorry you feel this way,...downtheyfall@yahoo.com | ||
| Jude OHara New member Username: Jude1971 Post Number: 11 Registered: 12-2006 |
Brenda I personally think it´s great that you have positive information to share, that´s what people need to hear before they undertake surgery of any sort, especially when they travel abroad, it is even more critical. In that light, i´d like to share some things to avoid if you are considering surgery abroad - always ask questions, remember nothing is too trivial, it really is your life in their hands so be thorough from the outset. Here are a few notes we put together to help people, i´d be happy to talk offline to anyone with any further queries. All information is on my profile. Avoiding the Medical Pirates and Profiteers We know that among the companies of the Medical Tourism industry there are probably some very ethical services who provide highly qualified doctors and other practitioners. Nevertheless, distinguishing the "good" from the "bad" in this case really turns out to be an almost impossible task especially navigating from behind your computer in your home country. We know that many people will find the tantalizing offers of these companies very difficult to resist. After all, they are carefully designed to be appealing and more specifically to manipulate you into "buying into" what they are trying to sell. PLEASE be aware of a few things you should be on the lookout for. This list is not comprehensive and is hardly exhaustive. Still, it does point out how to best identify companies and doctors who should be avoided. You Should Look For: Any doctor in Argentina who is actively promoting themselves or being openly promoted BY NAME While the health care system in Buenos Aires is world class and thoroughly modern, Argentine culture and manners are decidedly more old-fashioned and formal. Surgeons and Doctors with integrity never indulge in self-promotion or allow anyone with a commercial interest to promote them. They do not feature their services on websites or in magazines. They are the most highly accredited and board-certified specialists. Any Publication of Prices Choosing a doctor or medical procedure is not (and should not be) like going to a supermarket or cafeteria. The notion that anyone would provide a "price" for any procedure that can be applied to any patient, without first having been individually reviewed by a professional, is outrageous. Every patient's circumstances are completely unique (see next item). As such, every patient's treatment plan must be equally so. Any Company Who Does Not Request Detailed Information About Your Physical Profile and Health History We understand that many patients are surprised by the detailed information required in advance of creating an Individual treatment Plan. Any service who does not request (or works with doctors who do not require this sort of information) is one who clearly does not have your best interests in mind. This is far from a minor consideration. We are, after all, speaking about surgery. Do not jeopardize your health and possibly your life by entrusting your well-being to anyone who does not care enough to create an individual profile of you from the very beginning. Any Use of Words Like : "Tourism", "Holiday", "Vacation", "Package" ,"Flat rate", "Adventure", "Cheap", "Lowest Price",, "Deal", etc. Such words provide not so subtle clues about how the company regards your health and the seriousness of having a Medical procedure. Please consider this point carefully. Any Outrageous Claims or Guaranteed Results As the maxim says: anything that seems "to good to be true", probably is. We need add nothing further to this. Any Use of "Testimonials" or "Before and After Pictures" While these things would seem to be a good indicator of quality, their validity is nearly impossible to prove. How could you ever know with any certainty that the photos and statements used in such categories are actually those of real patients who have been served by the doctor or company which publishes them? Quite simply: You can not. This is one of the more obvious (yet unfortunately effective) tools of manipulation that we mentioned earlier. "You're the best!", signed "Todd from Alabama" may sound nice, but what is it really worth in terms of credibility? Any Demand of Payment in Full Prior to Leaving Your Home Country No reputable doctor in Buenos Aires would demand this. While it is necessary to reserve things such as operating room, surgical team, anesthesiologist, and hospital accommodation, if deposits of more than roughly ten percent of the total cost of your surgery are required to be paid in advance of your travel, you have good reason to be concerned. While it is horrifying to imagine, it is entirely possible and not unheard of that you could arrive for your pre-paid procedure only to find that you have fallen for a scam (see next item). Please do not let your enthusiasm blind your sense of good judgment! Any Doctor or Company Who Does Not List a Physical Address and Telephone Number on a website As with the above warning, you should take all possible precautions to ensure that you are not falling victim to an Internet scam. Do not put yourself at risk of discovering that those to whom you have paid money are actually who they say they are or are even physically in Buenos Aires. The friendly person you have been chatting with in preparation for your trip may in reality be in another country or continent. Likewise, NEVER give into requests to send ANYTHING to a Post Office Box, and NEVER send cash by Western Union, Money Gram, Cashier's Check, Money Order, or Escrow Service. We encourage you to do your own research in order to help you avoid these potential pitfalls and mistakes. These things are all easy to spot, and while you can never be 100% sure of anything, you can significantly reduce your risk of being taken advantage of or mistreated. In addition, you will want to carefully examine the website or other publication which is offering you a service. While not always a completely reliable indicator, things such as poorly designed websites which include numerous errors like mistakes in spelling, grammar and punctuation may give you important insights into the quality of care you may receive. In other words: A sloppy or cheaply designed package is more likely to contain a sloppy or cheaply designed product. While there may exceptions to this, they are probably rare. Most people who search online for anything are likely to consider many different websites and companies as part of their search. we encourage you to do the most thorough search possible. Just keep in mind that the more of the above outlined "clues" you spot, the more you should beware. | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 959 Registered: 12-2004 |
> what is the best way to do it..... The best way to do it is simply doing it. Instead of asking people to email you, you can just outline the basics, or write down a full report for the benefit of all. Don't you think it will be best to let people read your experience on this forum -or any other by the case- as opposed to inform a limited number of people that email you? THAT will be real sharing. Just as an example, someone asked YOU a couple of direct questions here. Why not give her the full enchilada? | ||
| Tom Advanced Member Username: Diverdown48 Post Number: 315 Registered: 6-2006 |
I like the forum format. I agree with Roberto. Say it here so we can all read it. But I humbly suggest we all be careful of attacking what others say by attacking them personally. Argue the issue, not the person. | ||
| Jada Golden New member Username: Jada Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2007 |
 I am seriously considering go with Plenitas for my cosmetic surgery needs. I would like to hear any comments on those who have actually had work done by them or knows someone personally that have had work done by Plenitas. I am trying to get all the information I can so I can make my decison of Plenitas or a doctor in Costa Rica. Thanks | ||
| Stephen D Ruud New member Username: Stephenruud Post Number: 3 Registered: 3-2007 |
I agree with Jude O'Hara's post. Don't trust a site that gives cafeteria prices. Don't pay in advance. Visit the doctors when you are there, send emails of your pictures before you get to Argentina. I had a very good experience with Dr Oscar Zimman, a professor and chairman of the leading hospital's plastic surgery department, who speaks English well. (He's been at the Mayo Clinic and University of California.) But, I didn't make any committments until I had seen him and two other plastic surgeons in Buenos Aires. Pleinitas advertises heavily and quotes prices, so I am skeptical about them. Check out all possibilites, avoid "tourist packages" as Jude O'Hara mentions in his post. | ||
| Veronica Espinosa New member Username: Veronicaespinosa Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2007 |
I started being an advisor in Plastic Surgery since I saw how people (foreigners) were exploited by greedy companies who risk people's life in the hands of surgeons who are not even members of the society of Plastic Surgery so then I decided to made my own web page www.veronicaespinosa.com to advise people so that their whole experience could be excellent. Obviously I get paid fot the advisory, coordination, facilitation and liaison but you will be certain that you will be in the best hands. So, IF YOU ARE THINKING OF PLASTIC SURGERY? ARGENTINA COULD BE THE BEST OPTION FOR YOUR “DREAM TO COME TRUE”, BUT GET A TRANSPARENT ADVISE AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING… DON’T RISK YOUR LIFE!!! ARGENTINA IS LESS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THE ECONOMIC SITUATION OF THE COUNTRY, BUT BEWARE NOT ALL THE COMPANIES ARE HONEST. It is important to get advise to know where to go and don’t forget to follow the rules: 1.All the surgeons must be Members of the Buenos Aires Society of Plastic Surgery. 2.They have to be certified by Argentinean Society of Plastic Surgery and members of many other international Societies as well and even they are Professors of the best Argentinean Universities of Medicine (School of Plastic Surgery). 3.They have to have hospital privileges to perform the procedure in many Hospitals and other facilities. 4.They have to have many years of experience so they are specialized to fulfill your expectations and also to handle any kind of complication. 5.You need to get a complete pre-surgical exam (blood test and EEG) to be certain that you are a good candidate for the procedure. You might need to send a picture so the surgeon can give you his opinion. 6.Ask to provide you the exact information about where your procedure will be performed, so you can be certain that it has all the security guidelines and that All the surgical facilities would be accredited and have all the needed structure. 7.Ask the exact cost of your procedure. 8.Ask information of the procedure, the risks and the expected time of recovery and also when you will be able to start your work again. 9.You can leave the country only after your surgeon consider you can do it and ABOUT TOURISM that will depend on the type of procedure and if the surgeons thinks you will not risk your health doing so. 10.All the devices and products used, meet U.S. standards because they are bought at known international companies. 11.The cost of the procedure is less EXPENSIVE because the economic situation of the country. A couple of years, surgeons and hospitals were able to get the best equipment because the US$ was ONE-ONE. Nowadays, there is almost 3 pesos per US$ 1, so that is why it is less expensive… If you have any question write to me to info@veronicaespinosa.com | ||
| Veronica Espinosa New member Username: Veronicaespinosa Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2007 |
Roberto You might think my post is just another person getting the forums for publicity but we can get in contact and I can tell you all my experience in this even before I start my own web page. I truly beleive people need an honest advisory!!!!! | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 1074 Registered: 12-2004 |
That is fine. The best way to gain credibility is to participate. By self-promoting yourself you will only be shooting yourself in the foot. If you see another thread on this topic and you feel you can contribute meaningful, unbiased information you are welcome to post. | ||
| Stephen D Ruud New member Username: Argentinatraveler Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2006 |
I good source of unbiased advice is from the Argentina Medical site, http://www.argentinamedical.com The site will direct you to various doctors, and has links to air travel and accomodations. I used the site when I had my surgery in Buenos Aires. I ended up choosing Dr Oscar Zimman, http://www.clinicazimman.com.ar As I've mentioned earlier, he is an excellent surgeon, and very nice person. Before considering surgery, the best single booklet is available from the Harvard Medical School, a publication called "Cosmetic Surgery from A to Z." Go to http://www.health.harvard.edu See the link "Special Reports", then click on "See all titles" and you will find "Cosmetic Surgery from A to Z." It's only $16 and well worth the cost. For example, I thought I might need a complete facelift, but after reading the report and consulting with Dr Zimman and doctors in my home town here in the US, I decided all I needed was an endoscopic brow lift, with cosmetic fill, Radiesse. As the Harvard booklet describes its mission: This Special Health Report looks beyond the hype about popular cosmetic procedures to deliver the facts based on solid medical science. Find out the benefits, risks, costs, and success rates for many cosmetic surgeries, laser procedures, botox, liposuction and others. Prepared by the editors of Harvard Health Publications in consultation with Kenneth Arndt, M.D., clinical professor of dermatology; James May, M.D., professor of surgery, Michael S. Kaminer, M.D., assistant clinical professor of dermatology. 48 pages. (updated: 2006) Hope this helps! Feel free to contact me. | ||
| James Stetner New member Username: James72 Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2007 |
Hi! My name is James Stetner, and I wanted to let you know I visited Plenitas for a Rhinoplasty and a 2 zones liposuction. I had to go to Argentina for business reasons, so I did a lot of research before giving them any money. Once I got there, they seemed more of a Marketing company than Plastic surgery professionals. I didn´t like them at all, so I went to see other Company I was in contact with before I arrived to Argentina: MAGNIMA. Long story short: very professional people, great Medical Staff (even their nurses spoke english!), moderate prices and, what´s most important: excellent results. Only thing I didn´t like was the Hotel, so I had it changed after the first week. I had a guy named Alex as my personal advisor. if you want to get in touch with them visit their site www.magnima.com I´ll gladly help anyone who is considering Argentina as an option for Plastic surgery giving more details on my experience. Best wishes! J | ||
| Bill Howard Junior Member Username: Veritas01 Post Number: 39 Registered: 5-2006 |
I had contacted Plenitas about 3 years ago for pricing on 4 dental implants. The price was great compared to US prices. The only issue was scheduling time to have it done. I go to Argentina at least once a year but it is for vacation and to visit my wife's relatives. So I never had it done but I still hoped to have it done in the future. Anyway... I just checked their site and the price for 4 implants has more than doubled in 3 years. Their pricing is still cheaper that in the US but not by very much. Not sure if that is something that is unique to Plenitas or to the dental industry in Argentina as a whole. Have prices really risen that much in 3 years? | ||
| Mark Ross New member Username: Mark_ross Post Number: 6 Registered: 5-2007 |
Hi Bill, I think that they are overpriced, for sure. By the way, if you still need those dental implants I can recommend my BA dentists. I had 2 implants with them, and I just had to take only one (yes ONE !!) painkiller. They offer a great sevice, affordable prices and english spoken staff. Check out their website at http://www.dental-argentina.com Cheers ! Mark | ||
| Paula Ambers New member Username: Paula_ambers Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2007 |
I was told about Plenitas by a friend who went there and had wonderful results. I've been reading forums for far too long and got very confused about whether I should go through them or organize it myself. I work in tourism and as everyone knows, anybody could go to orbitz.com and organize a trip, but, can you do everything by yourself and make sure everything will go just as planned?. I mean I'm no expert in this matter but can you set up an appointment with a doctor in Buenos Aires and have the surgery when you get there?, do you have the same guarantees?, will somebody accompany you?, I want to make sure all I have to worry about is finding a good airfare to fly down there, and not going through all the trouble of finding a good doctor myself. If finding a good doctor is so easy why bother to go to Argentina, I’m sure there are hundreds of affordable doctors anywhere in the world but can you really look everywhere?, are the results guaranteed? Anyways, as far I as I heard Plenitas has been doing this for some time now and I had good comments about them. My only problem with Plenitas is that I've been trying to get them to shorten my stay since I don’t have that much time to be away. I understand this is so you can fully recover but it's the reason I will have to postpone my trip. | ||
| Christopher Henson New member Username: Sandiegochris Post Number: 6 Registered: 7-2007 |
Hi, Paula....I agree with many of the posts including Jude and Roberto about organizing the trip yourself, but do not recommend having surgery of any kind unless you have done your research. Plenitas is the leader in medical tourism, but offers low prices because they use younger, less experienced plastic surgeons. There are many posts in here about negative experiences in here with them related to money and customer service. I recommend that you find a surgeon that is both Argentine board certified and US board certified, is willing to consult with you via email and telephone, and you visit the doctor when you arrive for a consultation to make the final decision. It is very important to allow for the appropriate time to heal before you return home in an airplane because of the risk of DVT or embolism after surgery. I have had a recent procedure myself and was very happy with the results, and the bedside manner of the English speaking US board certified plastic surgeon. I am happy to relate my personal experience to you privately. | ||
| kathy johnson New member Username: Katy22 Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2007 |
hi there... has anyone deal with Plentias regarding surgery not being performed and getting there money back? | ||
| Christopher Henson New member Username: Sandiegochris Post Number: 17 Registered: 7-2007 |
Hi, Kathy...I personally know of 3 of my clients who had less than positive experiences with Plenitas with regards to payment. Many paid deposits before they arrived in BA, only to find out the surgery will cost twice as much as they were quoted. Basically they felt pressured to go ahead with them because they held their deposit "hostage". This is a classic "bait and switch" underhanded practice which used to be propagated by auto dealers in the U.S. and is now considered illegal in North America. One of these people did get their money back but after a year of fighting with them. Plenitas is the biggest game in town in medical tourism, but not necessarily the best for a myriad of reasons. If you of someone that needs help locating a quality U.S. board certified plastic surgeon here in Argentina, let me know and I can help. Best of luck getting a refund.  | ||
| kathy johnson New member Username: Katy22 Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2007 |
hi christopher, do you know if that person needed to hire a lawyer to recover their money. they told me 3-6 months. do you know of any lawyers in BA? thanks. | ||
| Jane Portelli New member Username: Jake Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2008 |
hello my neme`s jane. i went to argentina to have two operations. i had only one cause after my first operation i became sick and had a high fever so i didn`t had the second operation. they told me that they will contact me the day after i arrive home about the rest of the money. nobody contact me.i phoned send them e mails but nobody answered. the person that i was making the deal with told me its not in my hands. don`t ever trust the people that works for plenitas, they will ripe your money and they don`t give it back if you don`t use it. | ||
| Guillermina Maza New member Username: Mina76 Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2008 |
Hi, my name is Mina and I´ve worked for Plenitas as a medical advisor for almost 2 months until they fired me because they claimed their budget didn´t cover my salary as well as my other 3 co-worker whom I entered with to work there. Although I know for a fact that the money keeps coming despite the fact the the lie to patients and the medical packages never is what they made us promise our patients, as a matter of fact sou you´ll have an idea, they didn´t pay us May´s salary , I´m still calling almost every day and already have a lawyer on it. It was a very bad experience as a employee and I know that 90 percent of patients didn´t get patient satisfaction. | ||
| Gayle Junior Member Username: Flaka Post Number: 46 Registered: 7-2007 |
This is a very bad plastic surgery center. I advise everyone never to go to this Center. The rates are outrageous and the doctors, I believe, are not board certified. Never have a surgeon operate without Board Certification. | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 1723 Registered: 12-2004 |
I welcome every new member here. And that would be the case for Mina, Jane, Kathy and many others. However, I would prefer to see a dose of restrain on personal opinions and leave accusatory statements completely out. Just in case, these kind of statements can carry legal consequences. Guillermina, your post can be contrued as one from a disgruntled employee, therefore biased. We appreciate the information but it is hard to take it with any kind of objectivity. | ||
| Victor Wolansky New member Username: Wvictor Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2008 |
Hi! Without talking about Plenitas itself, I reserve my opinion for now, I can only say that the doctors that toke care of my wife, were excellent professionals, and that she is very happy with the doctors and results, I would recommend those doctors, but it is just our experience, we are Argentinians living in the US, so for us was like going home. My wife had 4 dental implants, and 4 plastic surgeries, all in 1 month, Like everything, you can always have complications, and being in a foreign country makes those complications to look 100 times bigger. I will be happy to share information with anyone that need it privatelly. |
