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Roberto
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Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 1:20 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Please post any information here...
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sher Smith
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Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 9:17 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

has anyone had surgery at PLENITAS in BA? If so I'd like to hear how it went, i'm considering going there in the near future, thanks!
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Jeanne Zella
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Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 10:29 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well, I think I figured this thing out. Can anyone who has
traveled to Argentina for any type of surgery give me a heads
up about Plentias. Are they reputable, do they do what they
say, are they an honest organization, and do they standby their
work? My friend and I are looking into possible usage of them
and just want to cover all the bases. Would appreciate any
input from anyone pros & cons.

Thanks
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Roberto
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Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 11:16 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Not much information out there, I am afraid...

http://www.infobae.com/notas/nota.php?IdxSeccion=1&Idx=213776
http://www.beautysurg.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2165.html

Infobae would not publish a note unless they consider Plenitas a serious organization. But this doesn't mean much either.

(Message edited by admin on October 20, 2006)
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quovadis johnson
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Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 4:16 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello my name is quovadis I visited plenitas in april.I had to return home the next day family emergency.I havent received my money back yet.Have anybody else had this problem?
what can I do?
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Roberto
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Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 7:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Quovadis, welcome!

Do you have a receipt for the services paid but not rendered?
Did they give you anything in writing about your claim/refund before you left the country?
Is there anyone down there that can help you?

This type of situations are highly risky in Argentina as there is too much bureaucracy and paperwork.

They have this number on their site, toll free:
USA & Canada > 1-800-761-5795

They also have this on that site, but you probably know already:

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Cancellation policy

If the patient decides to cancel the trip after having paid the deposit:

The deposit will not be returned under any circumstance. However, the patient may use the amount as a credit. This credit will expire in 6 months.

If the patient decides to cancel the trip after having paid the total package’s cost:

He/she will be returned the remaining percentage of the package’s total cost (the deposit will not be returned under any circumstance).

A second option would be to use the amount paid as a credit, that is, postpone the trip. This credit will expire in 6 months.
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AND

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Cancellation of the service once in Argentina

If, once in Argentina, the patient decides not to undergo the procedure requested, he will be reimbursed the amount corresponding to the procedure, excluding the deposit and the expenses incurred.

If the professional advises the patient not to undergo the procedure he/she requested due to medical reasons, all the expenses incurred until the moment the physician makes this decision will be charged, but the rest will be returned to the patient.

In none of these cases the refund includes administrative costs of canceling the services or in which the company may have incurred. The term of the refund is subject to the time of Argentinean banking formalities.

The patient will be informed about the expenses incurred. If special supplies were bought for the patient (prostheses or bandages, for example), he/she can take them with him/her.

In none of these cases does the reimbursement include administrative costs incurred by company or costs generated by the cancellation itself. The time it will take to make the reimbursement is subject to Argentina's banking system.
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I wish you great luck.
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Jude OHara
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yes, I have a dossier of information on Plenitas gathered from many ex patients and it was one of the things that led us to set up a non profit charity organisation to help others not to have to go through things that our team members have already gone through.

If you would allow me the liberty of posting a little about the Charity and how they help. Our website has all the information you might need but to summarise:

I would like to let you know about a Charity Foundation set up specifically to help those of us needing unbiased and non commercial advice about what surgeon to choose, and to navigate the minefield of medical tourism companies. If you are looking for advice then do please contact us, we have no vested interest in referring particular surgeons to you as we are a non profit charity and exist solely via the donations of our patrons and satisfied patients

AestheticArgentina is a non-profit referral and support service in partnership with The International Aesthetic Foundation. We also serve as a peer advisory network connecting you with patients who have had direct personal experience with the procedure or doctor you may be considering. We offer:

Expert guidance at no cost to those in search of cosmetic or re-constructive treatments

An unbiased alternative to the commercial interests of "medical tourism"

Financial support to further the important work of our partner charities in Latin America via donations received from around the world.

AestheticArgentina is not a commercial service. Read "Our Story" at our website for more about us and why we are free.

We offer our services at no cost whether or not you use the doctors we recommend - As a result of our own personal experiences in the world of plastic surgery, we know first-hand the devastation that can come from looking into a mirror only to find a stranger staring back.

We have learned the hard way -- with our guidance, you won´t have to. We are here to help you make the right choices.

I am not here to criticise other medical tourism providers in Buenos Aires - suffice to say that all of us on the team at AestheticArgentina have used the surgeons and have had procedures at the largest providers and were unsatisfied (not to say disfigured in some cases) and are doing what we can to make sure others do NOT have to suffer in the same way.

A fantastic focus of the project is that we are raising funds and awareness for our partner charities. Our website has all the details but if you have any queries whatsoever please do not hesitate to contact me directly

Jude OHara. More information on my profile.

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KATHRYN ROSE
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Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 5:32 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

HELLO, MY NAME IS K. ROSE. JUST RETURNED FROM PLENITAS IN ARGENTINA ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. HAD A FACEFIFT, HAIR TRANSPLANT(2 SESSIONS), AND LIPO(UPPER BACK, WAIST, ETC). EVERYTHING WENT WELL FOR ME, BUT I PRACTICALLY SLEPT TO HEAL OR WAS IN BED (WATCHING TELEVISION) TO HEAL AT ALL AVAILABLE TIMES. WANTED BREAST UPLIFT, BUT MY BLOOD COUNT HAD WENT DOWN. DECIDED TO COME BACK HOME TO HEAL. WILL BE GOING BACK IN SIX MONTHS FOR THE REST.

ARGENTINA IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT ONLY SEEN IT IN A CAB ON THE WAY TO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR THE HOSPITAL. MOST PEOPLE DID FINE WITH THEIR OPERATIONS. MANY MOVED AROUND MUCH TO QUICKLY, GOING OUT SHOPPING, ETC. AND CREATED COMPLICATIONS. SOME WERE NOT PREPARED FOR THE INTENSITY OF THEIR OPERATION. TUMMY TUCKS AND FACELIFTS ARE NOT LIGHTWEIGHT OPERATIONS. MY FACELIFT WAS MUCH MORE SEVERE THAN ANTICIPATED EVEN THOUGH I HAD SEEN THE PROCEDURE ON TELEVISION.

NONE THE LESS, I AM DOING WELL. MY HUSBAND SAID THE FACELIFT TOOK TWENTY YEARS OFF MY LOOKS. IN SIX MONTHS YOU WON'T ABLE TO SEE MY SCALP BECAUSE OF MY HAIR IMPLANTS. LIPO TOOK EXACTLY 15 POUNDS OFF DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND MY BODY. I'M STILL HEALING. BUT YEAAAAAAAAAH!
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Jude OHara
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Posted on Monday, December 18, 2006 - 5:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Kathryn.

If you ever need further cosmetic surgery please contact us first, we are a non profit charity and can put you in touch with the finest surgeons in Argentina and you don´t have to pay the $2,000USD "administration" fee that is often charged by Medical Tourism providers. More importantly, our satisfied clients often make a small discretionary donation after their surgeries and this helps children in Argentina who desperately need our support.

http://www.aestheticargentina.org/children.php


The surgeons we work with are all board certified and our Medical Director is highly respected, being the number 2 chief of staff of the Argentine Medical Association. Surgeons with integrity and reputations to maintain tend not to work with commercial money making enterprises like Plenitas, so its great you had a good experience but medical tourism can be a minefield.



Many thanks
Jude
Founder
www.aestheticargentina.org
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Tom
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 9:54 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Congratulations Kathryn.

And welcome to our gourp. Please keep us updated on your progress.

And thank you Jude for the web site.
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Roberto
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Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 10:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Not familiar with this area at all but a general comment. Doctors in Argentina are excellent. The major risk getting this done abroad -most likely anywhere in South America- will be your inability to sue if something goes wrong. Something to consider as no matter how outstanding a practitioner is, things can happen.
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Brenda Irving
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Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 2:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I had plastic surgery in Argentina.

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Roberto
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Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 6:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Brenda, at first I thought you were well intentioned. But after reading your 6 posts I can only think of this as an attempt to drive traffic away. It doesn't look like you are ready to discuss the subject here, I am afraid...
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Brenda Irving
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Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 7:16 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am sincere, and not promoting anything, i am answering the e-mails as people contact me, I even give some of them my phone number, if they want to call. what else am i suppose to do ? I haven't mentioned any names because i don't know if that is allowed or not , I have been there and i have had it done, i want to share my experience with any one i can to help them out with as much information i have knowledge in to share. Argentina has won me over, and i just want to share it with as many people as possible...............what is the best way to do it..... my sincere intent was to help, from someone whom has current hands on experience,I spent 20 days there, i just loved it so much i'm going back.. I am sorry you feel this way,...downtheyfall@yahoo.com
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Jude OHara
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Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 7:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Brenda
I personally think it´s great that you have positive information to share, that´s what people need to hear before they undertake surgery of any sort, especially when they travel abroad, it is even more critical.

In that light, i´d like to share some things to avoid if you are considering surgery abroad - always ask questions, remember nothing is too trivial, it really is your life in their hands so be thorough from the outset. Here are a few notes we put together to help people, i´d be happy to talk offline to anyone with any further queries. All information is on my profile.

Avoiding the Medical Pirates and Profiteers

We know that among the companies of the Medical Tourism industry there are probably some very ethical services who provide highly qualified doctors and other practitioners. Nevertheless, distinguishing the "good" from the "bad" in this case really turns out to be an almost impossible task especially navigating from behind your computer in your home country.

We know that many people will find the tantalizing offers of these companies very difficult to resist. After all, they are carefully designed to be appealing and more specifically to manipulate you into "buying into" what they are trying to sell.

PLEASE be aware of a few things you should be on the lookout for. This list is not comprehensive and is hardly exhaustive. Still, it does point out how to best identify companies and doctors who should be avoided.

You Should Look For:

Any doctor in Argentina who is actively promoting themselves or being openly promoted BY NAME

While the health care system in Buenos Aires is world class and thoroughly modern, Argentine culture and manners are decidedly more old-fashioned and formal.
Surgeons and Doctors with integrity never indulge in self-promotion or allow anyone with a commercial interest to promote them. They do not feature their services on websites or in magazines. They are the most highly accredited and board-certified specialists.

Any Publication of Prices

Choosing a doctor or medical procedure is not (and should not be) like going to a supermarket or cafeteria. The notion that anyone would provide a "price" for any procedure that can be applied to any patient, without first having been individually reviewed by a professional, is outrageous. Every patient's circumstances are completely unique (see next item). As such, every patient's treatment plan must be equally so.

Any Company Who Does Not Request Detailed Information About Your Physical Profile and Health History

We understand that many patients are surprised by the detailed information required in advance of creating an Individual treatment Plan. Any service who does not request (or works with doctors who do not require this sort of information) is one who clearly does not have your best interests in mind. This is far from a minor consideration. We are, after all, speaking about surgery. Do not jeopardize your health and possibly your life by entrusting your well-being to anyone who does not care enough to create an individual profile of you from the very beginning.

Any Use of Words Like : "Tourism", "Holiday", "Vacation", "Package" ,"Flat rate", "Adventure", "Cheap", "Lowest Price",, "Deal", etc.

Such words provide not so subtle clues about how the company regards your health and the seriousness of having a Medical procedure. Please consider this point carefully.

Any Outrageous Claims or Guaranteed Results

As the maxim says: anything that seems "to good to be true", probably is. We need add nothing further to this.

Any Use of "Testimonials" or "Before and After Pictures"

While these things would seem to be a good indicator of quality, their validity is nearly impossible to prove. How could you ever know with any certainty that the photos and statements used in such categories are actually those of real patients who have been served by the doctor or company which publishes them? Quite simply: You can not. This is one of the more obvious (yet unfortunately effective) tools of manipulation that we mentioned earlier. "You're the best!", signed "Todd from Alabama" may sound nice, but what is it really worth in terms of credibility?

Any Demand of Payment in Full Prior to Leaving Your Home Country

No reputable doctor in Buenos Aires would demand this. While it is necessary to reserve things such as operating room, surgical team, anesthesiologist, and hospital accommodation, if deposits of more than roughly ten percent of the total cost of your surgery are required to be paid in advance of your travel, you have good reason to be concerned. While it is horrifying to imagine, it is entirely possible and not unheard of that you could arrive for your pre-paid procedure only to find that you have fallen for a scam (see next item). Please do not let your enthusiasm blind your sense of good judgment!

Any Doctor or Company Who Does Not List a Physical Address and Telephone Number on a website

As with the above warning, you should take all possible precautions to ensure that you are not falling victim to an Internet scam. Do not put yourself at risk of discovering that those to whom you have paid money are actually who they say they are or are even physically in Buenos Aires. The friendly person you have been chatting with in preparation for your trip may in reality be in another country or continent. Likewise, NEVER give into requests to send ANYTHING to a Post Office Box, and NEVER send cash by Western Union, Money Gram, Cashier's Check, Money Order, or Escrow Service.

We encourage you to do your own research in order to help you avoid these potential pitfalls and mistakes. These things are all easy to spot, and while you can never be 100% sure of anything, you can significantly reduce your risk of being taken advantage of or mistreated. In addition, you will want to carefully examine the website or other publication which is offering you a service. While not always a completely reliable indicator, things such as poorly designed websites which include numerous errors like mistakes in spelling, grammar and punctuation may give you important insights into the quality of care you may receive. In other words: A sloppy or cheaply designed package is more likely to contain a sloppy or cheaply designed product. While there may exceptions to this, they are probably rare.

Most people who search online for anything are likely to consider many different websites and companies as part of their search. we encourage you to do the most thorough search possible. Just keep in mind that the more of the above outlined "clues" you spot, the more you should beware.
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Roberto
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Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

> what is the best way to do it.....

The best way to do it is simply doing it. Instead of asking people to email you, you can just outline the basics, or write down a full report for the benefit of all. Don't you think it will be best to let people read your experience on this forum -or any other by the case- as opposed to inform a limited number of people that email you? THAT will be real sharing.

Just as an example, someone asked YOU a couple of direct questions here. Why not give her the full enchilada?
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Tom
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Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 11:51 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I like the forum format. I agree with Roberto. Say it here so we can all read it.
But I humbly suggest we all be careful of attacking what others say by attacking them personally. Argue the issue, not the person.
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Jada Golden
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 2:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello

I am seriously considering go with Plenitas for my cosmetic surgery needs. I would like to hear any comments on those who have actually had work done by them or knows someone personally that have had work done by Plenitas. I am trying to get all the information I can so I can make my decison of Plenitas or a doctor in Costa Rica.

Thanks
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Stephen D Ruud
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Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 4:42 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I agree with Jude O'Hara's post. Don't trust a site that gives cafeteria prices. Don't pay in advance. Visit the doctors when you are there, send emails of your pictures before you get to Argentina.

I had a very good experience with Dr Oscar Zimman, a professor and chairman of the leading hospital's plastic surgery department, who speaks English well. (He's been at the Mayo Clinic and University of California.) But, I didn't make any committments until I had seen him and two other plastic surgeons in Buenos Aires.

Pleinitas advertises heavily and quotes prices, so I am skeptical about them. Check out all possibilites, avoid "tourist packages" as Jude O'Hara mentions in his post.
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Veronica Espinosa
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Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 11:30 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I started being an advisor in Plastic Surgery since I saw how people (foreigners) were exploited by greedy companies who risk people's life in the hands of surgeons who are not even members of the society of Plastic Surgery so then I decided to made my own web page www.veronicaespinosa.com to advise people so that their whole experience could be excellent. Obviously I get paid fot the advisory, coordination, facilitation and liaison but you will be certain that you will be in the best hands.

So,
IF YOU ARE THINKING OF PLASTIC SURGERY?
ARGENTINA COULD BE THE BEST OPTION FOR YOUR “DREAM TO COME TRUE”, BUT GET A TRANSPARENT ADVISE AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING… DON’T RISK YOUR LIFE!!!

ARGENTINA IS LESS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THE ECONOMIC SITUATION OF THE COUNTRY, BUT BEWARE NOT ALL THE COMPANIES ARE HONEST.

It is important to get advise to know where to go and don’t forget to follow the rules:

1.All the surgeons must be Members of the Buenos Aires Society of Plastic Surgery.
2.They have to be certified by Argentinean Society of Plastic Surgery and members of many other international Societies as well and even they are Professors of the best Argentinean Universities of Medicine (School of Plastic Surgery).
3.They have to have hospital privileges to perform the procedure in many Hospitals and other facilities.
4.They have to have many years of experience so they are specialized to fulfill your expectations and also to handle any kind of complication.
5.You need to get a complete pre-surgical exam (blood test and EEG) to be certain that you are a good candidate for the procedure. You might need to send a picture so the surgeon can give you his opinion.
6.Ask to provide you the exact information about where your procedure will be performed, so you can be certain that it has all the security guidelines and that All the surgical facilities would be accredited and have all the needed structure.
7.Ask the exact cost of your procedure.
8.Ask information of the procedure, the risks and the expected time of recovery and also when you will be able to start your work again.
9.You can leave the country only after your surgeon consider you can do it and ABOUT TOURISM that will depend on the type of procedure and if the surgeons thinks you will not risk your health doing so.
10.All the devices and products used, meet U.S. standards because they are bought at known international companies.
11.The cost of the procedure is less EXPENSIVE because the economic situation of the country. A couple of years, surgeons and hospitals were able to get the best equipment because the US$ was ONE-ONE. Nowadays, there is almost 3 pesos per US$ 1, so that is why it is less expensive…

If you have any question write to me to info@veronicaespinosa.com
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Veronica Espinosa
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Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 11:33 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Roberto
You might think my post is just another person getting the forums for publicity but we can get in contact and I can tell you all my experience in this even before I start my own web page.

I truly beleive people need an honest advisory!!!!!
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Roberto
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Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

That is fine. The best way to gain credibility is to participate. By self-promoting yourself you will only be shooting yourself in the foot. If you see another thread on this topic and you feel you can contribute meaningful, unbiased information you are welcome to post.
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Stephen D Ruud
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Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 3:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I good source of unbiased advice is from the Argentina Medical site, http://www.argentinamedical.com

The site will direct you to various doctors, and has links to air travel and accomodations.

I used the site when I had my surgery in Buenos Aires. I ended up choosing Dr Oscar Zimman, http://www.clinicazimman.com.ar

As I've mentioned earlier, he is an excellent surgeon, and very nice person.

Before considering surgery, the best single booklet is available from the Harvard Medical School, a publication called "Cosmetic Surgery from A to Z." Go to http://www.health.harvard.edu See the link "Special Reports", then click on "See all titles" and you will find "Cosmetic Surgery from A to Z." It's only $16 and well worth the cost. For example, I thought I might need a complete facelift, but after reading the report and consulting with Dr Zimman and doctors in my home town here in the US, I decided all I needed was an endoscopic brow lift, with cosmetic fill, Radiesse.

As the Harvard booklet describes its mission:

This Special Health Report looks beyond the hype about popular cosmetic procedures to deliver the facts based on solid medical science. Find out the benefits, risks, costs, and success rates for many cosmetic surgeries, laser procedures, botox, liposuction and others. Prepared by the editors of Harvard Health Publications in consultation with Kenneth Arndt, M.D., clinical professor of dermatology; James May, M.D., professor of surgery, Michael S. Kaminer, M.D., assistant clinical professor of dermatology. 48 pages. (updated: 2006)

Hope this helps! Feel free to contact me.
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James Stetner
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 1:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi! My name is James Stetner, and I wanted to let you know I visited Plenitas for a Rhinoplasty and a 2 zones liposuction. I had to go to Argentina for business reasons, so I did a lot of research before giving them any money. Once I got there, they seemed more of a Marketing company than Plastic surgery professionals. I didn´t like them at all, so I went to see other Company I was in contact with before I arrived to Argentina: MAGNIMA. Long story short: very professional people, great Medical Staff (even their nurses spoke english!), moderate prices and, what´s most important: excellent results. Only thing I didn´t like was the Hotel, so I had it changed after the first week.
I had a guy named Alex as my personal advisor. if you want to get in touch with them visit their site www.magnima.com
I´ll gladly help anyone who is considering Argentina as an option for Plastic surgery giving more details on my experience.

Best wishes!
J
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Bill Howard
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 3:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I had contacted Plenitas about 3 years ago for pricing on 4 dental implants. The price was great compared to US prices. The only issue was scheduling time to have it done. I go to Argentina at least once a year but it is for vacation and to visit my wife's relatives. So I never had it done but I still hoped to have it done in the future. Anyway... I just checked their site and the price for 4 implants has more than doubled in 3 years. Their pricing is still cheaper that in the US but not by very much. Not sure if that is something that is unique to Plenitas or to the dental industry in Argentina as a whole. Have prices really risen that much in 3 years?
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Mark Ross
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Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 4:14 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Bill,

I think that they are overpriced, for sure.

By the way, if you still need those dental implants I can recommend my BA dentists.

I had 2 implants with them, and I just had to take only one (yes ONE !!) painkiller.

They offer a great sevice, affordable prices and english spoken staff.

Check out their website at
http://www.dental-argentina.com

Cheers !

Mark
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Paula Ambers
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 4:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I was told about Plenitas by a friend who went there and had wonderful results.
I've been reading forums for far too long and got very confused about whether I should go through them or organize it myself.
I work in tourism and as everyone knows, anybody could go to orbitz.com and organize a trip, but, can you do everything by yourself and make sure everything will go just as planned?. I mean I'm no expert in this matter but can you set up an appointment with a doctor in Buenos Aires and have the surgery when you get there?, do you have the same guarantees?, will somebody accompany you?,
I want to make sure all I have to worry about is finding a good airfare to fly down there, and not going through all the trouble of finding a good doctor myself.
If finding a good doctor is so easy why bother to go to Argentina, I’m sure there are hundreds of affordable doctors anywhere in the world but can you really look everywhere?, are the results guaranteed?
Anyways, as far I as I heard Plenitas has been doing this for some time now and I had good comments about them.
My only problem with Plenitas is that I've been trying to get them to shorten my stay since I don’t have that much time to be away. I understand this is so you can fully recover but it's the reason I will have to postpone my trip.
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Christopher Henson
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Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi, Paula....I agree with many of the posts including Jude and Roberto about organizing the trip yourself, but do not recommend having surgery of any kind unless you have done your research. Plenitas is the leader in medical tourism, but offers low prices because they use younger, less experienced plastic surgeons. There are many posts in here about negative experiences in here with them related to money and customer service.

I recommend that you find a surgeon that is both Argentine board certified and US board certified, is willing to consult with you via email and telephone, and you visit the doctor when you arrive for a consultation to make the final decision. It is very important to allow for the appropriate time to heal before you return home in an airplane because of the risk of DVT or embolism after surgery. I have had a recent procedure myself and was very happy with the results, and the bedside manner of the English speaking US board certified plastic surgeon.

I am happy to relate my personal experience to you privately.
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kathy johnson
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hi there... has anyone deal with Plentias regarding surgery not being performed and getting there money back?
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Christopher Henson
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Hi, Kathy...I personally know of 3 of my clients who had less than positive experiences with Plenitas with regards to payment. Many paid deposits before they arrived in BA, only to find out the surgery will cost twice as much as they were quoted. Basically they felt pressured to go ahead with them because they held their deposit "hostage". This is a classic "bait and switch" underhanded practice which used to be propagated by auto dealers in the U.S. and is now considered illegal in North America. One of these people did get their money back but after a year of fighting with them. Plenitas is the biggest game in town in medical tourism, but not necessarily the best for a myriad of reasons. If you of someone that needs help locating a quality U.S. board certified plastic surgeon here in Argentina, let me know and I can help. Best of luck getting a refund.
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kathy johnson
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hi christopher,

do you know if that person needed to hire a lawyer to recover their money. they told me 3-6 months. do you know of any lawyers in BA? thanks.
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Jane Portelli
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hello my neme`s jane. i went to argentina to have two operations. i had only one cause after my first operation i became sick and had a high fever so i didn`t had the second operation. they told me that they will contact me the day after i arrive home about the rest of the money. nobody contact me.i phoned send them e mails but nobody answered. the person that i was making the deal with told me its not in my hands. don`t ever trust the people that works for plenitas, they will ripe your money and they don`t give it back if you don`t use it.
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Guillermina Maza
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Hi, my name is Mina and I´ve worked for Plenitas as a medical advisor for almost 2 months until they fired me because they claimed their budget didn´t cover my salary as well as my other 3 co-worker whom I entered with to work there. Although I know for a fact that the money keeps coming despite the fact the the lie to patients and the medical packages never is what they made us promise our patients, as a matter of fact sou you´ll have an idea, they didn´t pay us May´s salary , I´m still calling almost every day and already have a lawyer on it.
It was a very bad experience as a employee and I know that 90 percent of patients didn´t get patient satisfaction.
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Gayle
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This is a very bad plastic surgery center. I advise everyone never to go to this Center. The rates are outrageous and the doctors, I believe, are not board certified. Never have a surgeon operate without Board Certification.
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Roberto
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I welcome every new member here. And that would be the case for Mina, Jane, Kathy and many others. However, I would prefer to see a dose of restrain on personal opinions and leave accusatory statements completely out. Just in case, these kind of statements can carry legal consequences. Guillermina, your post can be contrued as one from a disgruntled employee, therefore biased. We appreciate the information but it is hard to take it with any kind of objectivity.
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Victor Wolansky
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Hi! Without talking about Plenitas itself, I reserve my opinion for now, I can only say that the doctors that toke care of my wife, were excellent professionals, and that she is very happy with the doctors and results, I would recommend those doctors, but it is just our experience, we are Argentinians living in the US, so for us was like going home. My wife had 4 dental implants, and 4 plastic surgeries, all in 1 month, Like everything, you can always have complications, and being in a foreign country makes those complications to look 100 times bigger.

I will be happy to share information with anyone that need it privatelly.
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Debora
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Hi Victor, Can I get the doctor's names please? I am thinking about going to Argentina for BA , but I can't find any referral yet. I am Argentinian too, so it will be great the advise, my e-mail is dj14mar@hotmail.com. Gracias! Chauuuuuuuuuuuu
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Christopher Henson
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BEWARE: Public records indicate that Plenitas has filed for bankruptcy protection under Argentine law. I know two people who paid for surgeries with them, and when they arrived were told the surgeries would not be performed AND their money would not be returned. I felt so sorry for these people as they spent money for nothing, and they ran out of time to be able to arrange their respective surgeries with another medical group. If anyone has any more information on Plenitas and their business dealings, please let me know.
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Victor W.
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Well, my wife is one of the afected people by this, although Plenitas CEO swears that they did not filled and that they will honor the rest of our deal, my wife is at this point with temporal pieces on her mouth, pending the rest of her treatment of the dental implants, at least we got a good relationship with the dentist and he would finish his job on a very good deal for us if Plenitas screw us, because we paid 100% already . A really bad surprise on a few days ago, the hotel that Plenitas usually use , and where my wife stay for the last days of the trip, at Plenitas charge as arranged, charged my AMEX, for the whole amount, because Plenitas did not paid them. Again CEO respond my emails saying that he will pay me, but he do not day when. He may never do it.
We have a friend in Argentina right now having a surgery with Plenitas, I will find out and post what she tell me, also if this people honor it commitment with my wife and pay me back.
For now I can only say that we are happy with the doctors but not with them.
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Victor W.
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Christopher, as I can see by your profile, you work for a company similar to Plenitas, if those records you say are public, can you please post the source so we can know it is true and not a commercial tactic of your company? I'm not defending plenitas, but want to know the real situation based on facts and not gossip, since I was unable to find that public information you talk about.
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Victor W.
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Just a Quick news, my friend who is in Argentina right now, is being treated very well by Plenitas, has her preop exams last Friday and is having her surgery on Monday, I hope for her all goes fine, since I was the one I told her about Plenitas, I hope I did not made a mistake telling her about this company. Also if she have a good time there, it might mean that I still have hope for getting the rest of my wife treatment done.
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Christopher Henson
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I was very concerned at first that perhaps you were an employee from Plenitas trying to cover something up as these is a very serious situation, but I am hoping otherwise.. My experience is not hearsay or gossip. I have two former Plenitas patients tell me about their experience, as I had to try to help them with this dire situation. Both of them were told by Plenitas that indeed Plenitas was now in bankruptcy protection and they would not receive their respective surgeries nor their money back. I have referred both to one of the best law firms in Buenos Aires for the long and arduous task of trying to recoup the money they paid. The article was either in the Clarin or La Nacion, but I am not sure as I did not see the article personally. However, my assistant went to the Plenitas office here in Buenos Aires twice to try and help these people, but the doors to the office are locked and the number on the building has been removed (I was told by Argentine friend that this is a old business tactic to keep lawsuits from being served, but I cannot confirm this.) What I can confirm is we went by there on two occasions and the doors are locked, lights are on, and their are people in the office but not answering the buzzer. Yes, I have commercial interest, but my primary interest has always been to help people in an honest, and trustworthy manner. I cannot stand by and say nothing when an organization appears to hide behind the law to misled people like yourself and other innocents. I truly hope everything works out for you, your wife, and your friend as what Plenitas does puts a blackmark on everyone in the medical tourism business. Please contact me privately if you have any other questions. Best regards.
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Victor W.
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Me an employee from Plenitas... no way.. I have like I said my wife with a pending treatment, half done. I was just trying to see if there is any official information about it, since affects me directly. And it also contradicts a bit the situation of my friend that is right now in Argentina having a surgery arranged by this people. Will see what happens tomorrow that is the day she is supposed to have the job done.

Nothing personal with you or your company. Think that I'm in the U.S. trying to have some answers too about what is going to be our future since we paid a good deal of money on this people.
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Debora
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Hi Victor, Are you guys in Argentina or Here? I was trying to reach you but it kept coming back the e-mail....I want to wish you guys good luck with that matter. I hope all get fixed. I got a call from Plenitas trying to sell me a package for 6 200$, and they are supposed to call me back in 1 week...... I am doing my research trough your recomendation and my sister is getting me some surgeons too.I started to call a couple and it doesn't cost as much as they want. Thankssssss!!!Aguante Argentina!!!
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Victor W.
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Hi Debora, I'm in the US, in Virginia. And I got your email and answered you a few hours ago. Don't you got it? How is that Plenitas called you? Are they reading this and getting phone numbers or did you contacted them? It is a very sad situation since I felt from the first moment that something was very wrong with this company, but I was on a hurry to get my wife the dental job she needed, since she had some complications and was starting to have some health problems, and was impossible to get it done here, since we had quotes of $45,000 which is impossible for me to pay. No she is better, and looks much better too since she got some other stuff done too :-) but still have only temporary pieces and need to get all the 16 veneers we already paid for..... It could be worst... they could screw us with the whole package we paid....

I'm going through this trying to be positive... thinking that it could be worst... thinking that she got to know two fantastic professionals that did a fantastic job on her and that they will help me if Plenitas end screwing me bad... although it is not their fault... they could easily tell me.. I'm sorry...

It was weird that the first thing we heard when we arrived to the first doctor was... I'm not Plenitas.. they just hire me... all the problems you are going to have with them... is not my fault... Imagine my face...

They tried to please me.. they really tried... when they screwed with the timing, they paid for my wife ticket change, give us the cash for the difference on the airfare... and they said they will pay for the hotel too... and I was so silly that I gave my credit card to the hotel for the incidentals on the room... now the Hotel charged me the full amount of my wife stay because Pleanitas did not paid them.. and at an outrageous rate of almost $120 per night.. when was a 2 star hotel.

I will keep posting all I know... good or bad... trying to be fare and give them the chance to prove me wrong. But they don't even call me... just answer my emails with promises of delivery what I paid for.
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Victor W.
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My friend that is in Argentina right now, had her surgery yesterday, all was fine, and she is very happy, so far she had no complications with this people.

I had an email today from the CEO of the company asking me for my information to send me a wire transfer for the money the hotel charged me... will see what happens.. I keep my fingers crossed...
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Victor W.
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Well... as I said, I will post progress.. I got reimbursed by Plenitas for the money the hotel charged to my credit card. So I feel better now about the future of the treatment of my wife which if all is OK it will be at the end of November. I hope they keep doing things right for now on.....
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Christopher Henson
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Good news, Victor. How very scary for you! I wish this same CEO would return the money for the surgery packages of the people I met from New Zealand. They are now without surgery AND their money!! They have had to hire an attorney to try and get their money back. I wish you the best of luck indeed.
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Debora
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Good for you Victor! I am glad to hear that! Do you have another email address to contact you. I got my emails back. I need your opinion about the doc. Please e mail me at dj14mar@hotmail.com, Chaoooooooo
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Helen Mirren
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I'm new in this forum. I've been in contact with Damaris from Plenitas for a combined surgery. She was very kind and their price is really very good. She sent me some referrals whom I called and they were very satisfied with their experience.
I'm deciding to make my 30% down payment.
Damaris told me that they are working now with a new clinic that seems great for me. They also build new alliances with new clinics and doctors in new countries, but I prefer to go to Argentina for their experience in plastic surgery.
This company doesn't seems to be in financial troubles as Christopher Henson says.
Christopher: please don't answer me. You are a Plenitas' competitor.
After the doubts written here, I ask them to pay the balance when arriving after meeting the surgeon and visit the clinic, and they accepted.
Shouldn't I go ahead?
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Victor W.
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If they changed their policy about forcing you to pay 100% in advance like they did with me, you have less to lose if something goes wrong.

My friend was there 2 weeks ago, and she had a nose job, and she is happy with the service... Me on my side had a lot of trouble with them, but they showed me good will to fix my problems and they are doing it for now... I don't know what will happen in the future... Right now they are working, answering the phones and doing procedures. I got my hotel money back, and things are moving forward.

Just be sure to have a way to pay them while you are there, because some people forget about taking that measure and then all get slow.

The doctors I had the chance to meet are really good people, but again, this is just my experience and can change from person to person.

I hope this help you.
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Debora
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Hi Helen, I've talked to her before, She called me a couple times. I am looking for my own, and I have found 2 surgeons that I am email them pictures and info.(they operate famous and models there) This is more affordable for me because I know the people from there and my dad is getting all the info, if you want you can email me at dj14mar@hotmail.com. I wish you good luck!About Plenitas... From what I hear they are good and serious.Nice people and the contact the good doctors.
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Helen Mirren
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Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 9:38 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you both.
I really prefer to deal with an organization that has experience in managing foreign patients. I heard that the doctors there doesn't have experience enough in foreign patients and they ask for longer stay.
I'll do it with Plenitas, perhaps going during this month, and let you know when I'm there.
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Rain N
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Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 11:26 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello,

I'm looking for a dermatologist/plastic surgeon to have skin moles removed. I have many, and I would like a faster and a
less expensive way than I have been able to find in the USA.

Thank you in advance for any comments.

Rainny.
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Victor W.
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Just a little advise out of my own experience.. Buy airplane tickets you can change till the last minute... Don't be tempted to buy a super cheap airfare that does not let you change at all. I hope not, but one can always have complications on things like this. And you do not want to come back with stitches or have them removed before the surgeon want to just because you have to come back earlier than he think you should. It all depends on your healing and kind of skin, companies always tell you the least possible time, but the surgeon can have a different opinion after the surgery or after the first control. My wife surgeon advised her to stay more time and she did it, and is about two months and a half after the stitches were removed and you can barely see a scar, you do not want scars right? Flaying back with stitches is not good, nor having removed before the surgeon advise it.
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Rain N
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Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 1:45 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you for responding, Victor.

If everything goes as expected, I will be in Buenos Aires for three months
and another 3/4 weeks seven months or so later since
I'm planning on having my teeth fixed too, and that includes
two implants.
That second trip is still on the air though because I haven't
yet decided for a dentist.

I hope your wife is happy with the results :-)

Rainny.
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Victor W.
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Oh so you are going to be there for a long time. I guess second trip will be according to the results of the first one. Have in mind that usually the crowns and veneers take more time than the implant itself.

My wife is pretty happy with the dentist, it changed her life, she had a lot of health problems related to her bad teeth, and she did not even wanted to smile anymore. No she smile all the time and is very happy, even with the temporary teeth she have for now, is a whole new life for her.
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Victor W.
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This is a picture of her before and after teeth, have in mind that they are just temporal, not the final ceramic veneers . Pictures are not great quality, the actual picture is cropped form a social picture, not posing for the camera, so is low res.

Picture of before and after
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Roberto
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Rainy, about your moles try contacting any of the dermatologists at Hospital Austral located in Pilar. They will then test you with some of the most advanced medical equipment to detect potential carcinomas. I have the same problem and did some research in my last trip in June/July. Unfortunately, I couldn't make an appointment back then but if I go back I will have them look at me, for sure.
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Debora
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Que lindo Trabajo, le quedaron re lindos!!! Son postizos? Hermosa sonrisa. Si necesito te pido el nombre del Doctor, Barbaro, Felicitaciones para tu esposa!
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Victor W.
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Yep, they are all fake... I guess they will look even better when she get the final ones.
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Gayle
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Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 6:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Rain,

I had dental work done in Argentina last October and have never been so happy with the work. Most of my mouth consists of crowns, root canals, bridges and an implant. Two root canals, two crowns and one implant (minus the final crown) were performed in B.A. I am saving money to return to have the implant finished and additional dental work since I have never encountered such superb dental work here in the U.S. I hardly felt anything with the implant and had no bruising or swelling and had pain of 1 on a scale of 1-10 and didn't even require pain medication.

If you want more information please let me know.

Flaka
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Rain N
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Roberto,

Thanks a lot for the information. I will keep you posted on the subject once I get to Argentina.

Gayle,

Thank you for sharing your experience and congratulations on your luck with the dentist. If you don't mind, I would like to know the name, phone number, and/or address of the doctor and how much you've been charged for the implant. Also, I'm curious
about how long did you have to stay in Buenos Aires to have
the work done.

I will post about my experience once I get there.

Take care.
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Brittany Schole
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I'm just back from my dental work with Dr. Castillo from Plenitas and I agree totally with Victor.
He is excellent. I'm very happy with his work.
Plenitas organization was very good. I wanted to share my experience because after reading several comments in this forum I'm in the positive side. I'd totally recommend Plenitas and Dr. Castillo. Excellent job and very cheap.
The only thing I was not so happy was with the car they use to take me to the dentist office, but Osvaldo (car driver) and Leticia (bilingual assistant) were both excellent too. They seems to be very well trained.
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Brittany Schole
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I wanted to share my experience with Plenitas and Dr. Castillo.
I'm very glad with both. Dr. Castillo is excellent. The organization of my trip by Plenitas was great. The only thing I understand could be better is the car for the transfers, but Osvaldo (the driver) was very kind and helpfull, as well as the billingual assistant. They seems to be very well trained.
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Nicholas J Gale
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I have just been billed for my hotel that I paid Plenitas for. They are not answering emails or phones. PLEASE DO NOT USE THEM. They have cost me £1463 in unpaid hotel bills and the hotel claims that there are yet more bills unpaid. If you have had similar problems please contact me. OR if you have visited BA recently as a Plenitas patient and have stayed in a hotel arranged by Plenitas, I advise you to contact the hotel asap to check if your bill has been paid. I would appreciate it if anyone on here with a similar problem could contact me - I am considering what legal action I can take. My email address is nickinchelsea@hotmail.com. Nick Gale, London
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Victor W.
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I had the same problem, you have to email Alejandro and fax him the CC bill with the charge, I got paid a few days after. While you wait, question the charge on your cc.. Next time I'm going to read the small letter on the papers I sign.
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Helen Mirren
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2008 - 9:33 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have arrived this Sunday, and was picked-up by a billingual assistant with a not so modern car, but ok.
I went to the hotel, that was prety good. I asked in the hotel regarding the payment, and they told me that everything was normal with Plenitas and I have nothing to worried about.
I got my combined plastic surgery yesterday and went back to the hotel this morning.
Everybody was very kind. The doctor was excellent and the recovery at the clinic was great.
Really up to now, I have nothing to say regarding Plenitas service but great satisfaction from my side.
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Brittany Schole
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 10:40 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Helen: If you are still in Buenos Aires, please give my gratitude to Dr. Castillo, Sylvia (from the Patients Care departament) and all Plenitas staff.
I'm very glad with the results of my dental work with Plenitas.
Somebody told me that they have changed the Clinic where they perform the plastic surgeries and the new Clinic is one of the best in Buenos Aires. Is this true? You have had your surgery there? Please, let me know, because I have to return for the second part of my dental work and if so, I'd like to make a touch in my face.
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Helen Mirren
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Brittany: Of course, I'm going to give your greetings to them.
Today I visited Dr Sabogal and I'm very glad with how everything is going on. I'm very happy of choosing Plenitas for my surgery.
I'm going to ask regarding this change of Clinic. The one I got my surgery is excellent, very well equipped, clean, with great service from the people that assists us.
Up to now: I should recommended.
I'll write again later when I've this information for you.
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Helen Mirren
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Yes, Plenitas changed the clinic where they perform the plastic surgeries. They have had several claims with the previous one and they decided to change it. The new clinic is excellent. I heard that is one of the best in Buenos Aires.
I’ve been walking around this wonderful city, and they gift me yesterday with a CityTour that I’m going to do today.
Brittany: You should come to Plenitas for touch you are deciding to do in your face.
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Rain N

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. The dentist is:
Dr. Carlos Maria Condomi Alcorta
Av. Santa Fe 1976
Piso 6 B
Tel: 4811-9353.

However, I do believe he takes the entire month of January off for vacation as many do in Argentina since this is their summer.
If you still want more information, please let me know.
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Helen Mirren
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My experience with Plenitas was great. I'm very happy that I came here. The doctors are very professional and warm. Plenitas service was excellent.
I'm very happy with my surgery and save a lot of money coming here.
I saw during these days several people coming from US, England and Spain to Plenitas, and all of them were happy too.
I'd suggest anybody to take the chance of this experience.
Additionally, Buenos Aires is a great city to visit.
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Cassandra Smith
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I arrived to Plenitas in Buenos Aires last week-end. Yesterday I received my tummy-tuck. I saw Helen and she told me that we should share our experience with Plenitas even if we are happy or not with our experience. By the moment, I cannot say very much. Their organization up to now was very good. I liked very much the surgeon and feld very sure with him. The clinic is very charm (I like specially its style), clean and well organized. I'm very demanding due to my profession and by the moment nothing displeased me.
I promise that I'm going to share my hole experience during the next days.
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Brittany Schole
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Thank you Helen and Cassandra for your news. I have purchassed with them on Friday a complete face lift with cantopexy and complete eyelid for only $5300 and they gift me with an otoplasty at no charge. I'm going to have it done when a travel there for my second dental trip.
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Victor W.
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My wife is going back for her second trip to finish the dental work, next week :-) Can't wait for all this to be over. Again to be alone for 3 weeks :-(
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Cassandra Smith
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Victor: When is your wife arriving? I'd like to meet her.
I'm leaving this next week-end.
All I can tell are good things about Plenitas organization, staff and doctors.
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Debora
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Hi everyone, Please.... Has any of you know a Doctor Alejandro Anton in Buenos Aires? I gonna have a surgery pretty soon and I trying to see who else know him besides his assitant. Anything helps!!!
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Victor W.
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Hi Cassandra, my wife is arriving next Tuesday, are you still going to be there? Debora, have you googled him? Put his name + cirujano, there is a lot about him, apparently he is married to an actress or famous model, there is an article on the Gente magazine. But if you have doubts, go get to see him, have a chat, you need to be confortable with who is the person that is going to have your life on his hands. Do not get a surgery with someone does not inspire you trust. We have the same problem, but after have a meeting with the doctor, all was fine
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Debora
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Hi Victor, you are always answering people! Yes I did googled him but this is when my doubts started. I found out that the woman that I have been chatting is his assistant when she told me she is a lawyer, which is apparently she is, but she is promotioning him as jus a pacient and the doctor told me that she was very nice and always reccommend him with no interests when I see her e mail address as a contact for the turistic package. Now what I will think..... I am planning to get my BA on Tuesday and now I feel like ...they lied to me ,and maybe he is the best but why lie? Maybe I can meet your wife too,I am arriving on Monday
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Victor W.
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Get a meeting with him before the BA, you need to know him personally, you need to be in love with your doctor, discus details, where is going to be the implant, under or over the muscle, try different sizes, where the incision is going o be, look at pictures of other patients, find out how many years of experience he have, what kind of implant are you going to get, high or low profile.... etc...
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Cassandra Smith
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Hi Victor. It's a petty that I'm leaving tomorrow and I'd not be able to meet your wife.
Debora: why don't you try Plenitas? They were excellent for me, and I'm very happy with the surgeon. You have no risk and you may compare both doctors. Two options are better than just one. What I recommend you is to make all the questions and doubts prior to close the deal.
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Debora
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Hi Guys, thanks for the advices! WHat should I ask , what is important?
Isn't a little odd not to have pics of pacients?
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Victor W.
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for me, no pics would mean no surgery, don't get on the table of some one does not inspire you trust.
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Debora
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Hi, I just came back from my beauty trip and I am very happy with my doctor and I would recommend him. I couldn't be happier with the results. I have done a BA, lipo and scar revison of a horrible tummy tuck. If you are interested I could give you the information and show you pictures. Debora dj14mar@hotmail.com
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N J
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Hello Gayle and thank you for the info ( I'm Rainny).

Do you mind sharing how much did each procedure cost?
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Debora
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Hi Rainny. For the Lipo and correction of abdominoplasty was 1500 $, wich was great because in the US they were asking 5200$. And the Ba including the implants with a lifetime warranty was 2700 $ and I got a discount of 100$ for paying cash so I was even happier. All together here was gonna be 12500$ aprox.
so I've saved more then half and I got to visit my parents!
If you want I can provide you his cell phone. He will talk to you and answer all your questions, not his secretaries, which is the best.He gave me a cell phone and if you can't get there, they can pick you up he told me but I had my brother as my chofer. I can't be happier with the results! Good Luck! Deby
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Cassandra Smith
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Hello Florence and Rain?
Don't doubt on going with Plenitas. I've been there and saw several patients from US. They have a very good expertise with americans. Their prices are the best after the search I did. I compared with several clinics and doctors in Bs As.
All the patients I met in Plenitas were very happy too.
I wouldn't doubt.
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N J
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Posted on Monday, December 15, 2008 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Flo,

Are you going to the dentist too?
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N J
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I have PMed you.
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Victor W.
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we are in Argentina right now. My wife had BA, lipo, nose, and other stuff, plus Dentist. So far, nice experience.
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Debora
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Hi , I know what you are going trough. I went by myself but the difference was that I was borned there, but believe me, I was scared and I couldn't trust anything until I meet my Doctor.This is when I was relieved and the day of the surgery I wasn't even nervous, which was weird because I get nervous every time I get out of my house. So it will be everything, the trip, the appoitment, meeting the doctor and the concerns about teh surgery, but you have to go saying.... If I don't like the doctor, I won't get it done, I would just enjoy my trip and have a good time...... (This is what I said to myself)
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N J
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Hello Victor,

Is your wife having the work done at Plenitas?
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Victor W.
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Yes she did, you can read all my posts in here to know about our experience. Overall is positive, we had some jumps on the road, but they responded at the end, they had some bad management in the past but has changed for the good. I guess the good about hire a company is that if something goes wrong because they planed it wrong, they will respond for that.
One advise, don't be cheap with the days, and get an airfare you can change without huge penalties, you never know if you could need a few more days and you don't want to leave with stitches. Arrange the hotel yourself.
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Liz McIntosh
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Hi I have been communicating with Plenitas for a couple of weeks now. I am interested in travelling to Buenos Aires for Breast augmentation, rhinoplasty, and veneers, I wanted to know if there is anyone here who has the name and information of other doctors and dentist that are well qualified. I do think Plenitas' packages are overpriced but that is not the determining factor for me.
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Debora
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Hi Liz email me to dj14mar@hotmail.com and I will give you the name and phone number of my Doctor from Buenos Aires, I don't think I can do it from here....... I had done a BA and correction of tummy tick,scar + lipo, Deb
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Victor W.
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And I can tell you about the dentist that made such a wonderful job on my wife, she is super happy, and looks super natural and so good, it changed her life, 3 implants and more than a dozen veneers, although he is on vacations for 3 more weeks. Just PM me if you are interested.
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N J
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Posted on Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 1:15 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Victor,

I have sent you a PM about the dentist.

How do I check PMs in this website?
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Liz McIntosh
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Thank you so much for the information Debora. Does anyone happen to know of a dentist outside of Plenitas?
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Victor W.
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NJ, she did have it done at plenitas, but the surgeon that did it does not work for Plenitas anymore. I'll send you the info of the dentist to your email, check that I dont go to your spam folder.
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Victor W.
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I'll post pictures of the finalized dental work later today.
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Liz McIntosh
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Hi Chris thank you I replied to your gmail email.I am not very familiar with how this forum works
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Victor W.
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The finished job



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N J
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Congratulations to your wife, and thank you for posting the pictures!
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Victor W.
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you are very welcome. I guess I want this to be a message of hope for many that NEED dental work and can't really afford it in the US, that there is an option, and that works. When I originally got a quote of 45K to do this in here, I was hopeless and emotionally destroyed. I was not able to provide to my wife what she needed without getting in real finantial trouble for a decade... Finally I paid les than a third for the same job, and she is healthy and happy smailing again.
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Brittany Schole
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Victor: I'm so happy with the results I see in your wife's photos!!!
Wasn't Dr. Castillo from Plenitas who performed this work? I understand that he is still working with Plenitas and they have an excellent relationship (said by him). I have to return for my second trip. Why did you said he doesn't work more with Plenitas?
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Victor W.
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Hi, I said surgeon, not dentist, I'm answering two questions and sound like one, sorry. My wife had BA and 3 more procedures with a really good surgeon, that does not work for them anymore.
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AMARAGGI
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Hello,

Can anyone advise me a very good dentist working to european standards in Ba As? I am here for the moment and I think that a recent work made in Belgium is causing paint. hank you in advance
Thank you in advance
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Victor W.
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the only one I trust is out of the country now, it comes back on 12 days, but you better try Argentine standards, looks like european ones give you pain :-)
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Roberto
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AMARAGGI, aside from other advice here you can call Leonardo Pelcman. Here is his website
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J M
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i have just returned from having face surgery and breast augmentation with plenitas. they didnt tell me it would be two separate surgeries until the day before my surgery. ths really messed up my whole plan of time off from work, having someone there to take care of me, recovery time, etc. i developed a hematoma from the face surgery due to not having a drain inserted, which is very commom practice. it's been 49 days and i still have it!! i ended up having an open wound the size of 50 cent piece because they manually drained the hematoma daily for 4 days, then still didnt drain it when i hd the breast augmentation. the tissue became necrotic behind my ear and now i ahve a huge scar that goes down my neck. in addition to this, the skin gathered up from the daily manually drainings of the hematoma, whihc may require additional surgery to loosen it. it pulls the skin down on my face. Dr gallo , who you NEVER see execpt the minute before your surgery and never thereafter, made my nipples uneven, one is shaped differently than the other. the incisions opened up on my areaolas as well and became necrotic. the areola was totally separated from the skin. Luckily, i am a nurse and know alot about wound care, so i didnt lose my nipple,but now will have ugly scars on my areolas. i have beautiful nipples before teh surgery. i ahve emailed plenitas since returning to no avail. nothing. i have sent photos for them to show dr gallo so he doesnt make the same mistakes , but have heard nothing. do not use them. i have had to spend additional 2 grand so far to see a plastic surgeon here in the states and still may need a skin graft to the neck area as well as removing that skin that has gathered and adhesed to loosen it . i wish i had known this before because the representatives paint a wonderful picture. do go to Buenas Aires, but only to vacate. Or to get dental implants. i havent heard of any problems with that. i met many pts. staying at the howard johnson's and wounds were getting infected big time. everyone but 2 had complications. not only that, but they tried to screw me out of a refund they owed me and gave me the run around.
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Liz McIntosh
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wow that is horrible. I was going to go with Plenitas but my guy instinct told me not to. The gave me a quote and 3 days to make a deposit or else they would not work with me in the future. It all seemed very shady. Thank you so much for sharing your story.
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J M
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Thanks Liz. I should have opened my eyes when they told me too you have 48 hs to send us the money, right? that is a huge BEWARE sign. If anyone needs to contact me, I am free to share my experience personally.
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Victor W.
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I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience, I hope you can find a good ending for your problems, and thanks for sharing. I think something people need to realize, is that you need to trust your guts, and do not let anyone or any company to do any kind of pressure on you, don't let them intimidate you, telling you that you can't speak with the doctor before going, or having to pay all before go, if any of that happens, it is a sign that something is wrong.

Something very important it to trust your doctor, to have knowledge of him, his work, see pictures of other clients, and most important, feel that he or her is the right person. You are trusting your life, your body, to someone that have the power to make you feel better and make your life better, or completely ruing it.

I did the same, I let them intimidate me, make me pay all in advance, and they gave me a really bad headache when I was there. Fortunately, I'm Argentinean, and I know how to deal with this kind of people, but was a pain in the butt anyway. And I was lucky that the original doctor assigned to my wife, Gallo, was out of the country and they have to assign my wife to doctor Lodolo, which was a blessing. I could tell immediately when I arrived to his office, that he was no joke, and after having a chat were I told him, I won't let my wife to be touched by you if we are not convinced you are "the" guy, my wife completely trusted him after the chat we had and the pictures we saw of other people.

Same with the dentist, we have the blessing of have Castillo as her dentist. That guy is someone you can really trust, he is a real good person.

I say all this because I think is unfair to let other god people to fall in the same category as the ones are setting the bad example, for a lot of people who really need a surgery and can't afford it in the US, like us, traveling can be a good option. It changed our life, my wife has recovered her smile, she feel pretty again, and that has even helped in our relationship.

So, don't let anyone tell you that you have to pay in the next 24 hours, or that you can not meet your doctor, and try to get in touch directly with the doctors, many of them will do the same for you, will take you to the airport, help you to get there.

I would be really good if places like Plenitas worked 100% correctly, because is what one is looking for. Someone to take care of you in every single aspect. But it looks like is not that the case. What a shame.
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Cassandra Smith
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What a strange story are you telling JM!!!
For what I heard and saw when being in Plenitas, Dr Gallo does not work with them from September last year. They are working now with new doctors in a new Clinic, and all of them are excellent. I shared my experience previously and I’m so happy choosing Plenitas that I have to recommend them to anybody. All their professionals are great. Victor is sharing with us also his wifes experience with Dr. Castillo, their Dentist.
We read all the time in this blog several people telling so terrific stories about Plenitas, that I cannot think but that they have a special interest to impair them.
Sorry JM: I DON’T BELIEVE YOU ARE REAL.
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Victor W.
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Now that you mention it. One of the girls from the Gallo team, told me that he was not working with Plenitas anymore, and this was about last June. What I'm sure I do not approve and they did it with me, is trying to charge me all in advance and don't let me talk with the doctor. If I have to do it again, I would not do it with a place that use those selling techniques. What if the doctor is good but for reason you do not like it? Liking your doctor is something that can influence your healing. Your mind can do awesome tricks.
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J M
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Should i post my pics to show you how bad they are? i have all my bills from home saved, but plenitas tells me they are going through a rough patch financially and i will have to wait. Best of luck on your next surgery with them! i sure aint going back to that place! By the way Gallo works for them when they choose to, i met Dr. Turnbull and she told me how poorly plenitas staff is treated and that is why the stop working, but take on some cases.
well i thought everyone should know since i have had so much work communicating with them since my return.
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Liz McIntosh
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 4:14 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I can second that about the Staff being treated poorly. I am having my rhinoplasty and BA done by Dr. Tomas Brosto and he worked for plenitas and they parted ways because he was not pleased with the way they handled patient relations and a number of other ethical reasons so actually i can believe what JM says
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Helen Mirren
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All this discussion is very confusing. I had a great experience in Plenitas. I agree with Cassandra. When I purchased my package with them Dr Gallo was working, but they explained me that they changed not because the doctor but because the clinic.
The new clinic is a very interesting place. Very clean, complete, sure, good nurses, good food, excellent care of yourself.
When being there I met several Americans, two canadians and 3 Spanish. All very happy and glad for choosing Plenitas.
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Victor W.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 7:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I don't think it need to be confusing. She can be real, and she can had experience, which it does not mean that everyone had the same experience. Let's star by the principle that most of the people that post their experiences is usually people that had bad ones. When you go and buy a car, if you had a good experience, you probably go home and go to sleep. If you had a bad one, the you probably look for post it because you are mad and want to use it as a tool to get what you deserve.

Having a surgery is something that always can go wrong, even with the best doctor, there are many factors. Your health, if you took the medication on time, if you rested properly, and of course, the doctor.

Did my wife had a successful and good ended story, yes, did we enjoyed it, NO, will I go again with them. Probably not because my first experience was bad. With them, not with the doctors. It is good tho have the tools see and be able to chose.

J M, do whatever you feel you need to do for people to believe you, we saw previously here people posting things trying to harm Plenitas being competitors, posting unfair and may be fake information.
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J M
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Registered: 1-2009
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 6:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you for clearing that up. Cassandra, I dont know if you were a lucky patient or if you are the one who works for them. what I am 100% sure is the clinic you described earlier is not Plenitas at all. Anyone who is been through this can tell. If you want scar pictures, fussythe1@embarqmail.com
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Massave
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 2:00 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Another advice to plenitas/go sculptra and other employees of brokerage agencies, i suggest you choose American names that arent so obviously not yours. For those of us that are of anglo decent, when your grammar is incorrect it is a dead givewaway you are not an anglo making a post to help others on this site.
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Victor W.
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 7:59 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

ohhhh... So now only Anglo people can only help Anglo people here??? Do you think only Anglo people live in the US or the rest of the world? That was a very out of place comment. So if your English is not good then you are a Plenitas employee trying to trick people here? Por favor!!! Que imaginación!!! Some people had a great experience, some others had a horrible one.. If you want to be sure the person making the comments here are real, contact us personally, you will be surprised to see how non Anglo people is open and willing to help others, even people we do not know. Even with our bad grammar.
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Debora
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 9:04 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I agree with Victor.I don't have experience with Plenitas but I heard good things and bad things like happens with everything.
So Massave, this is not a place for you to make propaganda about you being a lawyer, I think this is a forum about Plastic Surgery, and don't worry that argentinians don't need to come here to make money. The rest of the world goes there because they have the best doctors.
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J M
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Post Number: 5
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

yes it is easy for us to distinguish plenitas/gosculptura employees posing as happy patients. i am sure he meant no harm to you victor. there are many gullible people out there. it is too bad no one can stop this evil, seriously
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J M
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 7:03 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

by the way Debora, plenitas is scamming a lot of us. so if you have not had their "healing experience" i recommend you keep your opinions to yourself. there are plenitas employees all over the web. specially the referrals they give you are false. they ll never give you a phone contact in the US only phoney emails. ask for referrals. email them, you will see what Massave means about latin roots behing all those emails. THEY DO NEED TO SIT IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER TO ATTRACT VICTIMS!
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Victor W.
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Post Number: 62
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 7:18 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I don't really care about Plenitas, if they made bad reputation is their problem. I just don't want all the Argentinian doctors to fall in the same category, because there is very good professionals that can help a lot of people. If I had to pay in the US the amount of money it was requested to heal my wife teeth, I would had to sell my apartment to pay for it or get a load that will pay for 10 years....

I personally have a friend that went to Argentina and had a very good experience with them. Also I was there personally, and was in contact with other clients that were happy too. And also saw others that were not.

I guess the advantage of a system like that, if it was honest people and a system working fine, is that having a responsible company behind that, is that is something fail, they respond, like they did it with me when I had to reschedule all because of their fault, get a week of hotel, and pay for the changes on airfare... but also I have to recognize that I have to fight a LOT... and I have probable a few hundred gray hairs becuase of them.

At the end worked, but because I'm very annoying when it comes to claim what is mine... but if it was my wife alone, not me in there, she probably would had a very bad experience.

I guess I was just lucky.. my personal experience, and I referred people to those doctors that were so good and professional with us.

Our dentist still email us to follow up how she is, the plastic surgeon already saw my wife twice after the surgery at no charge for follow up.. Those are really good people and I wish them the best.
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Debora
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 10:16 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I did not have the experience with Plenitas, but yes with an excellent argentinian plastic surgeon that I got myself.
And by the way who are you JM?Talking about scammers names.. ..And I believe I can write my opinion on this forum, this is for that, so please if I want your opinion I will ask you.
Massave; I have to say that I am sorry about my misunderstanding about before and wish you good luck.
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Massave
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello all,
As a reader who read a post on this site and made a decision I am very very sensitive and want to make sure people get truthful information wether they be latin, american, or latin-american for that matter. If you truly understand the logic of what I am saying i find it hard to believe you can attack my comments with a rational basis.
I was scammed by an Argentinian surgeon and came back here a year later (am here right now) as I know i made the wrong decision. I discover quite a bit of insider information that I will share, without bias, with anyone who wants to know. I dont want any human being to go through what I did with Dr Gustavo Tuny last year and if you email me personally I can tell you all of the 8 doctors i have met with and their prices that were quoted for my procedure. It may not be applicable to what you want to have done but can give you an idea. And again the best surgeons dont do business with brokerage firms. Will be the first to admit I dont know if this is the case in dental work but it is in plastic surgery. My comments are meant to protect and inform people of what happens in this process period.
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MIchael Calero
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Username: Michael795

Post Number: 94
Registered: 4-2007
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 5:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi everyone. For the last two years I have gone to two dentist in Buenos Aires. In 2007 the dentist did a great job on the work he did on me but slightly over charged me being a foreigner but it wasn't by much the performance of his skills were more important to me . I came out very happy on his work where he did three months of work in one month so I had to see him everyday except sundays.. So he deserved that little extra..

In 2008 , I found another dentist which is my present dentist since he did excellent work, and charged me like he would a Argentine. I had two implants inserted for $900 usd , now that is a great price. This coming September going down again for the finalization with the crowns and then also getting some costmetic surgery done.

If anyone wants to know the names of these two dentist neither one deals with the medical tourism industry, just write and I can send you their information. You will be pleased with both, they both understand english but not fluent so one has to be patient with them but you will be able to communicate ok.
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leonardo castillo
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Registered: 3-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 8:18 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi, to all of you. After reading all this interesting information, I am left with a great sense of mistrust for Plenitas. My wife and I will not gamble with the quality of our lives. Then what is that we must do? If this forum is to accomplish its importance, can anyone suggest a list of possible, prestigious plastic surgeons from Buenos Aires?
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Victor W.
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Username: Wvictor

Post Number: 64
Registered: 9-2008
Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I sent you the info of the one that did all for my wife, we trust him.
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Jenny Castro
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2009
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 4:29 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'm new here and I saw it after I got my breast implant and lift with two lipos with Plenitas.
I was so pleased with the results, the surgeon, the clinic and Plenitas' staff that I couldn't believe what I read here. It seams that we are speaking about different companies.
I can only think that in this forum there are some people that is only interested to impair Plenitas.
I just decided to write here because I couldn’t believe what I read.
And yes, perhaps my English is not perfect. I’m from Spain but I live in Seattle for 5 years.
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Mary R.
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Username: Sunrising40

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Registered: 6-2009
Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 11:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I'm new here but I wanted to share my experience,
I went to plenitas August 07 for breast implant,

My experience,
the plus side
=The medical facilities were very modern
=Great Assitant and transportation

=the first surgeon I saw was not the same as the one who did the surgery
=bad scaring, my areola is disform
= I had to leave early and they never told me I had to remove the stiches at my doctor, so I assume it would dissolve, and two weeks later I had to go to the emergency room (all they cared about is that I pay the balance before I leave)
=this is not a medical/ vacation, if you want to visit the country plan to come 1 week before as after it will be a lot of staying in the room while you heal.

now I'm planing to go back and have a breast lift and scar revision. I tought they would discount me,but instead he added 1000$ to the quote and then told me he would give me a 1k discount.

Im going in july 09 and will keep you posted!
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Gayle
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Username: Flaka

Post Number: 68
Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 2:18 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Does anyone know the cost of Radiesse injections? Any recommendations for a good dermatologist that does this?

Thank you.
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Roberto
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Post Number: 2003
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

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