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Larry Yagoda
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

These are musts. The Iguassu Falls are incredible!!!!! We stayed at the Sheraton International, a short walk away from The Falls.

Lots of chocolate in Bariloche. Take the 1/2 day tour and you will see some of the msot incredible scenery.

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Nazlie
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Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 4:54 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi

My wife and I are travelling to Buenois Aires from South Africa on the 2 March 2005. We'd like to do the following trip. Can you please advise a travel agents who could assist with our plans.

Our trip is as follows:
Soon after the 4 March 2005, we would like to embark on a trip to El Califate (for 1 day to view the Perito Glacier) and to Bariloche (for 2 days). From Barloche we would like to travel across the Andes and lakes to Puerto Montt in Chile and back to Bariloche (then fly back to Buenos Aires), or possibly fly from Puerto Montt (or Santiago) back to Buenos Aires?

Can you please advise of a packaged price, including flights from and to Buenos Aires. Please also send a detailed itinary of the tour.

Breakfast and transfer to and from the airports must be included.
Hotel standard can be 2 or 3 star.

Please provide the travel agent's physical address in Buenos Aires if possible.

Please copy your response to my email address: nazlie.behardien@sap.com

Kind regards
Nazlie
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Roberto
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Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 5:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Welcome to our forums, Nazlie.

I will forward your inquiry to Erna Rosenfeld, down in Buenos Aires. She runs Erna Rosenfeld Viajes and will be able to give you what you want.

The physical address for her agency is:
Erna Rosenfeld Viajes
Florida 470 - 4th floor suite 406
(1005) Buenos Aires - Argentina
PH: 4322-8147

The minimum stay at El Calafate should be 2 days. Less than this is not recommended.

I will pass the following request:
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Flight Buenos Aires - Calafate / March 5th
Two nights in Calafate March 5th and 6th
Flight Calafate - Bariloche / March 7th
Two nights Bariloche March 7th and 8th
On the 8th, day excursion to Puerto Montt
Flight Bariloche - Buenos Aires / March 9th

This is 4 nights. It's a bit tight, so if you can devote one more night to Bariloche that will be great.

Anyway, Erna will get in touch with you in the next day or so.

Roberto
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Jennifer Castillo
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 4:56 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Is it possible to get from BA to the wine region and lake district via bus in a reasonable time frame. Would we be able to get an overnight bus? How many days would you allow for round trip travel. How many for the falls? Thanks.
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Roberto
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Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 5:51 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Welcome Jennifer!

Yes, it is possible to take a bus to the Mendoza region where there are many wineries. Buses run every day from the Terminal (Retiro Terminal Bus). There are at least 3 or 4 different bus liners that do that route and we got the information from one of them that they offer the standard trip on regular seats and the *executive* trip where seats convert into 180 degrees beds. The bus trip Buenos Aires - Mendoza is about 11 to 12 hours if I remember correctly. Also, bear in mind, that the executive trips include dinner and breakfast. Departures start at around 8 pm. The cost for the one way was approx $130 pesos a few weeks ago, that is, USD $40/45. A bargain.

I imagine you can then take a bus from Mendoza to the Lake area or specifically to Bariloche. This is probably a very common route but I have no knowledge. Mendoza may require a minimum of 3 days (2 nights) and ideally 4 days (3 nights). Bariloche instead, may require 4 to 7 nights. Bariloche has become a fairly large city to Argentina's standards and there are many things to do and many places to visit in the surrounding region, including perhaps a one day visit to Chile. I'd say do not stay less than 3 nights in Bariloche. You will regret it.

To Iguazu, I am afraid you will have to fly. Taking a bus to Iguazu from Mendoza is feasible but from Bariloche it will take forever and chances are you will still have to cross Buenos Aires. Iguazu can be done in 2 nights if you have time constrains but the optimum stay is 3 nights.

For those 3 destinations you will need a minimum of 9 nights and a maximum 12/14 nights.
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Naomi
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Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 5:26 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Please help me! I am travelling from Buenos Aires to Iguassu Falls in June. Where can I buy flight tickets in the internet (I am in Finland, Europe) and I would like to know how much they cost. Also I would like to know if Sheraton International hotel in in Argentina (or in Brasil?).
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Roberto
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Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 11:20 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Naomi, a roundtrip ticket Buenos Aires - Iguazu - Buenos Aires is about USD$230 +/- per person. I imagine you can buy this at any online reservation system or any online travel agency but make sure you get some kind of paperwork (eticket copy, etc). We can also offer this service to you by issuing an e-ticket and giving you the documentation at your arrival in Buenos Aires. If you are interested on this please contact Erna at erna@travelsur.net for specifics (you can pay us online). Don't forget you will need a transfer from the international airport Ezeiza to the local one, Jorge Newbery.

Yes, the Sheraton International is in Iguazu national Park (Argentina). Sheraton
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Naomi
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 7:16 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you for reply!Do you think it is easy to get the flight tickets while in Buenos Aires, ie. travel in three to four days after arriving Buenos Aires. I would like to fly from Iguazu to Buenos Aires and then get an evening flight to Europe. Do you know if there are several flights between Iguazu and Buenos Aires during one day?
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Roberto
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Naomi, there are probably 4 flights to Iguazu every day, so you shouldn't have any problems purchasing your tickets after your arrival. However, if you get here and run into trouble when trying to get the tickets just call us because our passengers ALWAYS fly. We know who to call :-) - Just in case, our phone number in Buenos Aires is 4322-8147.

You should be able to arrange a late return from Iguazu, but bear in mind you are getting back to the domestic airport and you will need a transfer from Jorge Newbery to EZEIZA for your flight back to Europe. Give yourself *ample* time to get to EZEIZA because of traffic jams and stuff.
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Adam Thompson
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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 1:45 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello. My girlfriend and I are heading to Argentina from Aug. 8-23. We want to spend a good five days in Buenos Aires to start, but from there we are weighing our options. The two areas in the country that we're taking the closest look at are Mendoza and Iguazu. A few questions about this:

1) Would it be feasible for us to see both places by executive bus in the time we have? Could we go directly from one to the other, as you hinted at above, instead of having to go through BA again? How much would that all cost?

2) How cold does it get in Mendoza in mid-August? And how easy is it to tour the wineries without a car?

Thanks for your help.
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Roberto
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Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Adam, You have plenty of time to visit both Mendoza and Iguazu. You can probably take a bus from Mendoza straight to Iguazu but I would not know for sure, neither I know schedules and prices. Once you are beyond the orbit of Buenos Aires, things are different. Since flying to Iguazu is inexpensive I would consider doing the Iguazu part by plane. A whole 3 nights package may retail for about $450/480 per person all included (prices may vary slightly in August) and then, back in Buenos Aires, I would take the exec. to Mendoza. Mendoza should be fine by second half of August, however, some of the excursions are high altitude so you will still feel cold weather. Rainy season may start after October but even then rains are mild. For the most part, Mendoza is dry and the valleys and flatlands get the "zonda" wind, kind of a warm, dry breeze from the west. Higher ground (and you have up to 10,000+ feet when crossing to Chile) gets cold.

Most hotels will have something ready for you, so you can visit wineries without a car. Private drivers or small vans will do. You can also buy excursions independently through some agents -like us-. If you are interested on this option, just contact Erna at erna@travelsur.net and ask her how much for a day or two of excursions in Mendoza and stress the wineries. Take care.
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Wendy VinniCombe
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Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 10:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Please can you advise if there is a flight from ushia to El Calafata and if so what days as we are planning a trip in December.
Many thanks
Wendy
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A cocnerned Mom
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 2:12 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

My son and his friends are studying abroad for the winter semester. THey are living in Buenos Aires. Since the college is not giving them much direction as to the sites of BA, they are relying on guidebooks and word of mouth. Do you have any suggetions for them as far as learning the culture of the city and seeing the sites? They will be traveling to the falls and to Montevideo in August, but for now, they seem to be a little lost at times. Thanks.
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Roberto
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Wendy, I am in a cybercafe in Nassau and can only give you a short answer. Yes, there is a flight from Ushuaia to El Calafate. For details on scheduling and costs please contact my mother at erna@travelsur.net. She will give you all the information you need without any commitments.
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Roberto
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 4:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear 'concerned mom', I understand your dilemma, however, I feel there is no need to worry. Most city guides have trustful and reliable information. I myself use them. As for word of mouth, they are probably getting advice on the real deal and this too is reason for no concern. If they need some orientation as to what to see while in Buenos Aires -even if as a jump start-ask them to call my mother at 4322-8147 and either herself or one of her employees will be happy to tell them what not to miss and what should they avoid...

Both Iguazu and Montevideo are fine destinations, although Colonia de Sacramento in Uruguay would have been much more interesting. Hope this helps.
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Noni Nichols
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Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 4:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

thread moved here

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Flummoxed in Oakland
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Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2005 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Two of us will be traveling to Argentina the first two weeks in November. We are planning to book an excursion to Iguazu Falls (2 or 3 nights) and are considering one other excursion. We'd really like the other excursion to be to El Califate and the Moreno Glacier but are worried that the weather in November would be too cold, rainy and such to be enjoyable. What should we expect the weather in El Califate to be that time of year?

Our other choices would be either Bariloche and the lake region or Peninsula Valdez. Do you recommend one over the other?
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Roberto
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Flummoxed, temperatures will oscilate around the 50's. December will be summer down there so November should just be ok (not awfully cold). You can research weather in other argentine locations here. Having said that, I like the Bariloche option the best, just because it offers so many things...
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allisonreid
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Posted on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 11:45 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I will be travelling from Iguassu falls to Buenos Aires one way in mid November. Is it better to book the ticket when I'm there or to book it in advance? What airlines do those routes? Approximately, what should I expect to pay?
I might also be interested in going to the Peninsula Valdez in november as well? Is this a good time to go to see the migrating whales? Is it worth the triop? How much would round trip airfare be from Buenos Aires?
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Hugues
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Posted on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 1:16 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

We will be in the Bariloche area for about 10 days in mid-november. Our main activity will be day treks in the area (Paque National Lanin, Nahuel Huapi, Los Alerces). I know it's a little bit off season. What will be the temperature around that time? Is it too early to enjoy trekking? We just want to be sure not to find eveything closed or miss on nice trek because of snow, rain or bad weather.
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Roberto
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 4:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Allison, the one way ticket Iguazu/Buenos Aires should be approximately USD $120/125. Aerolineas Argentina does this route. There are usually several flights a day but booking in advance is recommended. You should be able to do this for free. The season for spotting southern right whales extends from June through December, but it is during September that you will see the most quantities of mothers and children. During August you can spot some copulation. By December whales are ready to go deep into the ocean. I'd say mid November is just fine.
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Roberto
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Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 4:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hugues, temperatures will be very nice for trekking. Not to cold and since you will be excercising you will feel pretty warm, as long as you don't go *too* high. Here you can see the complete range of weather conditions for Bariloche.
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motineta
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

hello.
we are considering to come to argentina for amonth in october. we we thought about spending almost a 2 weeks in bariloche. isn't it to cold and rainy there in october? as i sow in the weather forcast it about 13 c during the day, but i coudn't understand if it also rainy. (we are travelling with a small child at the age of 3 years.
would it be better to pospone the trip to november?
thank you in advance.
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Roberto
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Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 10:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Motineta, if you travel to Bariloche during the second half of October weather should not be a problem. Temperatures should oscilate between 5 to 12 C and precipitation levels should also be very low. I don't think there is any need to postpone your trip. Nights will be cold though.
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jeannette Romaelle
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Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 11:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Robert
We will be arriving by cruise ship on the 22nd of January 2006. We want to spend 4 days in Buenos aries and then find a tour to Iguazu Falls for 3 days with flights, hotel, transfer included. Could you give me some guidance on how to find a reputable company to deal with? Also we need help with a hotel in Argentina for the 4 days since we are in our late 60"s we want as safe as possible area. Can you give us a idea as to how much this will all cost? What is the temperature like at that time?
thank you
Jeannette
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Roberto
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Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 2:25 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Jeannette, we have arranged such stays many times for our clients. You can contact Erna at erna@travelsur.net anytime. She will be more than happy to give you an estimate for both Buenos Aires and Iguazu. She will also recommend very safe and convenient hotels in both places. There are other agencies that can arrange this for you, besides our own (Travelsur) so I would suggest that you compare prices and services. Unfortunately, I can't give you any names right off my head. Buenos Aires during late January is a bit humid and hot. And I am afraid that Iguazu might be even hotter. Here you can find historic temperatures for Iguazu. Remember that it will feel 'heavier' because of humidity, and here you will find current weather for Iguazu. These are the pages for Buenos Aires: historic and current.
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Gordon William
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Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Traveling to Argentina March 11-18, 2006. Would like to visit B.A. for 2 or 3 nites. What would you recommend to fill-out the balance of our visit? Bariloche,Iguazu, Tierra del fuego? I would appreciate a suggested itinerary. Prefer 5 star accomodations.
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Roberto
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Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 2:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Gordon, laying out a complete itinerary would be beyond the scope of this message board, however, I can give you my personal opinion on how to use that time while in Argentina. Staying less than 3 nights in Buenos Aires may be too short of a time. There are just too many things to do and places to see, including shopping. You must take advantage of the preferred rate of exchange. This will leave you with only 4 more nights and I am afraid you will only be able to pick up one more destination. Iguazu would require at least 2 nights which will leave you with another 2, BUT that will not be enough for visiting southern Patagonia unless you don't mind really tight schedules and some risk (any airport delay will jeopardize your entire trip). If you do choose Iguazu as your second destination, you can devote 3 nights to this leg and a fourth night in Buenos Aires upon your return.

The second alternative would be 3 nights in Buenos Aires and then 4 nights either in Bariloche or Tierra del Fuego (Ushuaia). In general, Bariloche may require 4 to 5 nights whereas Ushuaia can be visited in 2 nights. One last alternative that can be really, really nice would be to stay only 2 nights in Buenos Aires and then combine Ushuaia and Calafate in a visit to southern Patagonia (2 nights in Ushuaia and 3 nights in Calafate). This last alternative is the one I prefer the most because you will have a chance to visit the glaciers, which are out of this world.
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Wilfredo Guevara
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Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 3:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi, Roberto

Mi esposa y yo estamos planeando viajar a Argentina de Oct. 14 a Oct.20 2005. Quisieramos saber tu direccion para contactarte y nos ayudes a planear nuestra estancia en Buenos Aire.

Gracias por tu cortesia

Ps: Viajamos de Los Angeles

Wilfredo}}}}}}
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Roberto
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Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Estimado Wilfredo, puedes contactar a Erna en el telefono 4322-8147 una vez en Buenos Aires o visitar su oficina en:

Florida 470 - piso 4, oficina 406.
Capital Federal

Buena suerte.
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Stefani
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Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 2:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hola,
My husband(Argentinian) and I and (two teenagers 16 & 18) are planning a trip to Buenos Aires and want to travel to El Califate area. We will be in B.A. December 22nd in the early morning and would like to travel until the 28th returning to B.A. to be with family and friends. It seems the flights and packages are VERY expensive. Any suggestions? Can we travel by bus for less? What would be a good excursion with older teenagers? We would like to stay in a clean, nice place with breakfast included. Perhaps B&B or an estancia (depending on the cost). Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Stefani
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Roberto
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Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 2:56 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Stefani, the time of the year you want to travel makes most trips more expensive due to lack of spaces. You can certainly save some money by going to Calafate by bus but you may have to contend with other problems. I do not know of any bus company that makes the route BA-Calafate straight. More likely, you will need to get to Rio Gallegos first, a 13+ hours trip by bus departing every day and then find transportation to Calafate, which might not be difficult. A bus company that does the route BUE-Rio Gallegos is EXPRESO EL PINGUINO (phone in Buenos Aires is 4315-4438). They will be able to tell you how to get to Calafate from Rio Gallegos. You just have to make sure that the schedules match since there may not be daily departures to Calafate.

For a comfortable, alternative stay in BA that your daughters may enjoy you can check this bed and breakfast malabiahouse.com.ar.- We had some happy customers staying there.
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Roger Thryselius
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Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I will be in Buenos Aires on December 17 and would like to go by bus to Puerto Iguazu on the 19th. Given the holiday season, what is the chance that there may not be available seats for purchase when I arrive on the 17th? Also, would I be able to book a return flight to Buenos Aires on the 23rd or 24th at that late date? Sincerely, Roger Thryselius
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Santiago Bengolea
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Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 4:20 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Roger:
Guess that as Aerolineas Argentinas strike is over you won´t have problems with buses from BA to Iguazu ( go only by coche cama, its a loooong trip !) but guess its all booked to return by plane from Iguazu.... not sure .
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Roberto
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Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 5:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

The best way to find the right answer to your inquiry will be to contact the busliners themselves. We are pretty close to your travel dates therefore, bus companies might know about their availability in great detail. I am of the opinion you can always find a seat in a bus trip to Iguazu and like Santiago said, specially now that the other means of transportation has become available again. But this is just an opinion, not a fact.

CRUCERO DEL NORTE S.R.L. 4315-1652/0478
EMPRESA RIO URUGUAY S.R.L. 4312-1828/4315-1225
EXPRESO SINGER S.A. 4313-3927/2355
EXPRESO TIGRE IGUAZU S.R.L. 4315-7700
VIA BARILOCHE S.R.L. 4315-7700

The above is a list of bus companies that travel to Misiones. If you call from the US, you must dial 011-5411-XXXX-XXXX.

For one way flights you must also contact an agent. You can always try Erna at erna@travelsur.net. AA has approximately 4 daily flights so it is possible that they may NOT run out of seats.

Santiago's advice on flat beds coaches is very useful. This is a long 12/13 hours trip.
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Geoff
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Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi -

I wanted to combine a trip to Buenos Aires, Iguassu Falls and Montevideo. Are there any airlines that fly from the falls to Montevideo non-stop?

Thanks

Geoff
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Santiago Bengolea
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Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:41 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

almost sure nope... sorry
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katie philcox
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Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 10:16 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am flying into Santiago, Chile on a round the world ticket but our flight back to London leaves from Rio de Janerio, Brazil. How do we get from santiago to rio the cheapest way and is is possible to go via iguassu falls?
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Roberto
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Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 8:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Katie, the cheapest way will be to fly straight from Santiago to Rio. You can do it via Iguazu too but it will take many more legs, which in turn means more delays, more money and more airports.
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Richard R
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Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 7:42 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Roberto, We are planning a trip to BA and other travel locations around Argentina. Our trip will be 4/5/06 to 4/16/06.
Few questions: our children are twin girls 13 years old they do not speak Spanish I was born in BA my wife speaks English only I have not been in Argentina since 1965. What can you recommend to see and do, so we can get the best experience for my family?
Thanks, Richard
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Roberto
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Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Richard, you'll be surprised at the changes here after so many decades... You may have time for 3 destinations if you want to make the most. I would seriously consider both Iguazu falls and Bariloche. Perhaps you can split your trip into 4 nights in BA, 3 nights in Iguazu and 3 nights in Bariloche. These destinations will give your family a glimpse of Argentina; the cosmopolitan city of Buenos Aires with its elegant shopping centers and great restaurants, the northern tropical areas with colossal views of the falls and the picturesque landscapes of the southern lakes. Bariloche has become a very important destination and has grown to about 150,000 habitants. Just crossing Nahuel Huapi you can visit Villa La Angostura which is quickly becoming the hidden gem in Patagonia (12,000 people). I think your daughters will enjoy both Bariloche and Iguazu a lot. The fact that your family does not speak spanish shouldn't make any difference...
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Richard R
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 3:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

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Riyad Anabtawi
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 3:45 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

My e-mail in is getting floooooooded with these DICK HEADS sending test messages!
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Roberto
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Riyad, I am sorry. The test messages are mine. We just had a bad case of spam. I am trying to correct the problem. I apologize again.
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Riyad Anabtawi
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 6:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Roberto..
I would never have thought it was you!
No problemo
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Erna
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Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 2:16 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

My husband and I are planning a ski week in Argentina. We land in BA on the 3rd of July-fly out to Bariloche on the 8th, ski for a week-fly back to BA on the 15th and out of Argentina on the 19th.
Do you have any ideas for us regarding places to see and to stay in that periode, besides the ski week.

Thank you
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Roberto
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Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 10:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi, the typical visits you should not miss while in Buenos Aires are related to tango (a diner-show or finding milongas where locals dance or even taking a few classes yourselves), gauchos (visiting a ranch or spending a day at San Antonio de Areco), "el Tigre" and plenty of restaurants and shopping. Buenos Aires has excellent food places and some of the nicest malls built on top of recycled century old structures (Patio Bullrich, Abasto, Galerias Pacifico). The list of good restaurants is too long to display here but you can find recommendations all over the place, including in other threads of this same fora.

I would also consider visiting a few interesting neighborhoods during your stay, such as Palermo Hollywood, San Telmo, and Plaza Francia/Retiro. San Telmo offers a cozy, small flea market on Sundays. You can also find an interesting flea market in Plaza Francia both on Saturdays and Sundays. And don't forget to check out the "Colon Theater".
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Samuel Rangel
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hola, para viajar de buenos aires a Bariloche, hay autobuses de noche? cuanto costaria?, hay alternativas de viaje(tren o avion).
Tambien, alrededor de Bariloche que lugares "debo" ver. y si hay algo interesante entre Bariloche y BS AS.
gracias por tu ayuda.
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Tom Woodson
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 2:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Samuel, according to altavista.com you said

"Hello, in order to travel from Buenos Aires to Bariloche, there are buses at night? whichever costaria, there are trip alternatives (train or airplane). Also, around Bariloche that places "I must" see and if there is something interesting between Bariloche and BS AS. thanks for your aid."

Is that about right?

http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr
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Roberto
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 3:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

LOL close enough.

Samuel, welcome.
There used to be a site with busliners and schedules for all destinations in Argentina, but right now I get a 404 (http://www.tebasa.com.ar/). If it ever comes up again you can research who goes where, when and at what price (by calling the companies). Besides busing it, you can take a plane but I heard prices more than double as of last week. Not sure, we had a couple of passengers canceling already so the bus alternative may be the way to go.

Yes, there are a great number of places you can stop/visit on your way to Bariloche and around the Bariloche area itself. But this will depend on the amount of time you can devote to this trip.

Right out of Buenos Aires you can visit LUJAN on your way south. About 370km from the city there is the town of PEHUAJO and a hair away TRENQUE LAUQUEN (very nice). All on federal highway (RN) #5. About 600km south you have SANTA ROSA, another nice little stop. About 1200km on federal highway #237 you can visit EL CHOCON and at 1490km CONFLUENCIA TRAFUL. Around this area, things become picturesque and beautiful.

While in Bariloche, explore these alternative destinations: San Martin de los Andes, Junin de los Andes, Villa la Angostura, El Bolson...
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Samuel Rangel
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 9:49 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Roberto, Thanks for your help.
Well, what I want is basicaly not lose any time, I just have 9 days to explore as much as I can. You are recomending me several places to stop by on my way to Bariloche, Do you think is posible to take the bus on Buenos Aires, get off on the "X" town and then, at nigth get in again? Or do you think that is to much hassle?.
Or do you think is better to pay the airplane and save those 40 hrs...? Any idea how much is the plane to bariloche? Can you recomend me a web page or a place where I can check on the prices?
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Roberto
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 12:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

If you only have 9 days get to Bariloche as fast as you can and do all your exploration from there. Better, in my view. Something going on with the prices right now... Will try to post here. You can try this http://www.aerolineas.com.ar/index_en.asp?pais=us but not sure if it works.

(Message edited by admin on August 16, 2006)
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A S
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Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Just noticed a new fare on LAN from MIA. US$399 plus taxes for a total of US$452. Quite a deal I think.
http://www.lan.com/promociones/data/norteamerica/u s/ar/mia_bue_non.html
Now to fit Bariloche, Mendoza and Mar del Plata in only two weeks.
So many problems, so little time.
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Roberto
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 8:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Samuel, a Buenos Aires-Bariloche-BuenosAires on LAN is approximately usd $342 roundtrip. Check again next week cause airlines may publish new rates for foreigners.
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Tom Woodson
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 9:55 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

What is the name of the lake in Bariloche that I am told is the biggest lake in all of Argentina.

Much like lake Okeechobee in Florida

Gracias
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Roberto
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:07 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Nahuel Huapi?
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Marjorie Tenchavez
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Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 10:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi, can anyone tell how much is an average airfare from Posadas to Bariloche? I understand that we have to get a connecting flight from Buenos Aires?

Your feedback will be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Marjorie
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Beverly Adams
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Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 10:56 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Marjorie,
I just looked at LAN airlines again and from Iguazu to BA is 82US without taxes. Check out their website and give them a call for help.

Beverly
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nicola dowsett
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Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 9:18 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Please can anyone advise me of the best way to get from Bolivia to Iguazu Falls? My husband and I will be in North/eastern Boliva in December, and are happy to take a bus via Salta or to fly direct. If anyone has details of journey times and prices I would be very grateful. Also, I have heard there are bed/buses, is this true?
We are hoping to go to the falls over the Christmas period, do you know if it will be open?
We would also like anyone's advice on where to spend New Year, perhaps around Iuazu or Salta?
Thanks, Nicola.
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Tom Woodson
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Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hey Nicola
Welcome to the group.
Actually they never close the falls. The water just keeps flowing. Just kidding.
Seriously, the hotels are open and the buses run and it is a special day but you can see the falls any time of the year.

The more classy buses have reclining seats that in some cases are as flat as beds or at least recline enough to allow you to sleep fairly comfortably. They are a few pesos more but well worth it.

You will love Argentina

Good luck
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Roberto
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Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Nicola, as Tom said, you can visit Iguazu any time of the year. Dinner may have special pricing for Christmas/New Year. You should find out with your hotels what are their specials for those nights. Possibly dinners with shows that require advanced bookings.

Where exactly will you be in Bolivia? Is this La Paz? If so, I suggest you contact their bus terminal to see if they have buses headed towards Puerto Iguazu (I doubt it)...

Bus Terminal: Calle Uruguay y Avenida Perú
Tel: 591-2-367274 / 591-2-367275.

A one way air ticket La Paz - Iguazu usd $636 (connecting through Buenos Aires > you 1st fly to Buenos Aires and then to Iguazu). Bear in mind connections are "incompatible". You will have to spend one night in Buenos Aires. You arrive at the international airport but depart from the domestic one. This route is not an easy one. If you find of any other solution please post it here.
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nicola dowsett
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Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 9:55 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Tom and Roberto

Do you know if the bus company has a website? Or do they speak english?! I have no idea how to book the bus from England...is it likely to be full around Christmas? How many hours from Santa Cruz to Ascuncion/Iguazu?

We will be in Santa Cruz, Sucre, La Paz etc. So any info on these would be good.

The airfare seems pretty expensive...I found another site Aerolineas Argentina, which seems pretty good for flights, however wasn't working too well just now..they do have contact numbers and email addresses though, which I have tried. Will let you know how I get on.
Thanks
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Roberto
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Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Well... I tried those numbers myself and they are wrong. Here is the number for the Bus Terminal in La Paz

591-2-228-6061

They said there are no buses from La Paz to Iguazu. They suggested to contact the 2 companies that travel to Argentina and ask them how you could get to Iguazu...

DeOrmenio: 591-2-228-1141
Almirante Brown: 591-2-228-4420

They said that someone in DeOrmenio *might* speak english.
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Lika
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Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi,

I am planning a trip to Brazil-Iguazu-Buenos Aires and I need some help.
-I would like to fly from Rio to the falls and then from falls to Buenos Aires, but I can't seem to find a website to book it.
-Also, is there only 1 airport in Iguazu or 2 and what is it's name?
-I am thinking about spending only 1 night in Iguazu. Do you think it's enough time? What is the normal route that people usually take to see the falls?

Thank you very much for your help,
Lika
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Tom
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Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 8:27 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Lika
Welcome to the group

I am going to take a wild guess and say you will have to go through Buenos Aires to get to the Iguazu falls if the airport is in Argentina. It is on the border with Brazil so I may be wrong. It will be interesting to find out.
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Max Kirsch
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Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello

Can anyone provide some information on boat trips on the southern lakes from Argentina to Chile? Is their a specific travel agent that is better than the rest on these: Would the trip start in Bariloche? Tips for planning such a trip from Buenos Aires and guesses on costs? Thanks. Max
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Roberto
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 2:37 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Max, it depends a lot on which lakes. If you only want to see those around the Bariloche area you can take excursions on site, to Puerto Varas and Puerto Blest. These can be day excursions that cross the border into Chile. However, if you want to navigate the chilean canals and fiords then you should depart from Ushuaia over the Beagle chanel. Needless to say, this last trip is somewhat more stressful because ships or boats will cruise in open waters.

Is virtually impossible to guess a cost. Your best bet will be to contact an agent and have them work some kind of rough itinerary. If you want to do the lakes in the Bariloche area you can plan on 5 to 7 days in the region devoting 2 to 3 full days to explore navigating the area. Perhaps, also explore spending 1 night in Chile. Fiords is a completely different game. I know you contacted Erna but feel free to contact as many agents as you can and compare plans/prices.
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Max Kirsch
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 6:35 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Roberto. I have been in BA for a couple of months and obviously do not know the lay of the land yet. No, I did not contact Erna and wouldn't know how-- why would departing from Ushala over open waters be more stressful? Because it would be more expensive (yes, that is stressful)?-- I am interested in something more than one-day excursions, and started out really interested in the Fjords-- Can Erma supply some plans and itineraries? How do I contact her? Thanks. Max
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Roberto
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Stressful > that was a general statement regarding navigation conditions. One thing is cruising lakes and a different one is navigating the Strait of Magellan and the Beagle Channel for 7 days... wind, weather, sea. Call her at 4322-8147 from 9 to 5 weekdays and see what she has. Ask her about the "mare australis" cruise. This may be one that you may like. And always shop around!
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Kate Podmore
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 1:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

My friends and I need to travel one way from Bariloche to Puerto Montt in Chile. Is it possible to rent a car in Bariloche and leave it in Puerto Montt? If not, what are the alternatives? Also, approximately how long is the journey?
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Roberto
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Posted on Wednesday, January 03, 2007 - 11:00 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Kate, welcome! It is about 350 km (a little over 200 miles). You go through Villa La Angostura. Should be a beautiful trip to be done not-in-a-hurry. Check with Rent A Car Bariloche to see if they have a drop off office http://www.rentacarbariloche.com/english/bienvenid a.html
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Jan-Erik Bäckström
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Hello and greetings from Finland

My wife and I will visit Argentina 24.1.-18.2.07. Among other places we are going to visit Tres Arroyos. My grandfather, Juan Brams, born 1894, came to Tres Arroyos 1926 from Finland. The rest of his family, among them my mother, he left in Finland. My grandfather kept very little contact to Finland, but he wrote occasionally to my mother. That is why we know very little about his life, but we do know that he died 4.8.1971 unmarried and without children. We have his death certificate. My mother managed to get this document with the help of the Danish honorary Consul in Tres Arroyos in 1980 mrs Fanny Skou De Guisasola.

To my knowledge he lived in the neighbourhood of Tres Arroyos all the time. He was working for a Danish farmer, Roberto Kristensen, and the Kristensen family took care of his funeral and his grave is in the Danish cemetary in Tres Arroyos.

Now you understand my intrest in Tres Arroyos. Here are some questions.

1. The best way to travel from Buenos Aires to Tres Arroyos? Bus, train? I did not find a direct connection.
2. The location of the Danish cemetary? I suppose it still exists. My maps are not good enough.
3. Phone numbers of
- Roberto Kristensen's widow Stella Kristensen (if she is alive)?
- Fanny Skou de Guisasola (if she is alive)
4. How many Kristensens are there in Tres Arroyos? Is it unrealistic to try to get contact to someone who have heard of my grandfather?

Thank you in advance.

Janerik
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Roberto
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 5:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Jan, welcome! Interesting story.

1. It's a little over 500 km from BA and you can just catch a long distance bus at the bus terminal (Retiro). This is easy. Check with the following companies Plusmar, Rio Parana, El Valle and La Estrella.
2. Take a look here. This is the map for Tres Arroyos. There seems to be something named "Cementerio Danes".
3. Those phone numbers will have to be researched on site, once you get to the town.
4. You must try. Nothing wrong with it.

Good luck!
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Max Kirsch
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Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 8:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Okay, I'm ready. Roberto, can you have Erna contact me in the next few days @ MKirsch@fau.edu; I would like to plan a 10 day trip to Patagonia from Buenos Aires, skipping Tierra Del Fuego. If anyone has suggestions, please let me know. I have a friend coming down from Miami--would it be cheaper for him to go straight down there, or will he have to stop in BA in anycase? Does anyone have a guess about what a 10 trip from BA to Patagonia will cost in the middle of March? Thanks. Max
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Roberto
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Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Max, I passed your request to Erna... Your friend will land in Buenos Aires, I am afraid. But if he wants to head straight to say, Bariloche, he can connect directly departing from the domestic airport the same day.
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Max Kirsch
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Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 2:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

THank you Roberto-- as for landing in BA, I assumed as much. I tried to e-mail Erna, but I see the agency is undegoing a transition- the e-mail did not go through. Thanks again. Max
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Roberto
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Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

We discontinued her email (and mine) due to heavy spam. You should have received a response pointing to the form that is now in place at http://www.travelsur.net/contact.htm. But don't worry, she will contact you soon.
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nicole martin
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Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 10:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello, I need to get from Santiago to bariloche, does anyone have any sugesstions? We were going to rent a car but I found out I need a permit to enter Argentina. Is this ture? If not, we were going to take a bus. Do you know how long and how much $ it is? Thanks, Niki
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Lina Beltran
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Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 1:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hola.

Voy a visitar Argentina entre Agosto y septiembre, pero no dispongo de mucho tiempo y debo decidir entre visitar Bariloche o las Cataratas de Iguazu. Me podrian decir que es mejor?.

Gracias.

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