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James Bryant
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Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 6:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Sirs,
I am interested in traveling to Argentina in late June/early July. We are traveling about 10 - 12 days and want to experience BA, the Iguaza Falls and the Mendoza area.

A few questions:
1). We like a mix of city life and the outdoors. I know July is winter time so this might not be the best time to visit i.e. rafting, etc.

2). Does the Argentine air carrier now fly out of LA (Aerolineas Argentinas)? We live in SF so that flight would be better. We can fly AA if required.

3). Can you recommend some itineraries and a travel agent?

Thanks so much for your help
James
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Santiago Bengolea
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Username: Santiagov

Post Number: 38
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 7:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

It will be winter time in Argentina , rafting in Mendoza is imposible in July.but wine tasting a must :-)
Robertoīs mom , Erna is a TA that will surely help you.
I wouldnīt skip the Falls and Mendoza, as for B. Aires, think in a full week with a couple of days for Outdoors, estancias (farms, horseback riding, BBq.s), Tigre Delta islands ( Relaxed visit to a area of many rivers and islands) and Colonia in Uruguay are Top outdoors choices.

Try for more info :
welcomeargentina.com
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Riyad Anabtawi
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Username: Riyada

Post Number: 21
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 9:12 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi James
Check out my place in Mendoza.
www.ranabtawi.com
Cheers. You will love it!
Riyad
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Roberto
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Post Number: 362
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 12:50 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Like Santiago said, that time of the year may not be the best for outdoors in Mendoza, however, Iguazu should be ok, if not great.

In 10/12 days you have plenty of time to visit all 3 destinations. I would explore arriving in Buenos Aires and flying straight to Mendoza, although this may mean a very long trip from San Fransisco. Three nights in Mendoza suffice, then back to Buenos Aires where you can stay for 2 nights, fly to Iguazu for 3 nights and back to BA for another 2 to four nights, depending on your overall trip.

I think AR is not flying straight. You may have to make a stop in Miami. I will find out more tomorrow when the Buenos Aires office opens....

There are many reputable agencies, Travelsur/Erna Rosenfeld is just but one. You can explore other agencies on/offline and also do some comparison among different agents. Erna can be reached at erna@travelsur.net.

(Message edited by admin on March 13, 2006)
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Claudia Leight
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 8:33 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have 2 weeks in Argentina mid-June and plan to spend the first 4 days in B.A. and go to Iguazu for 2-3 days. Of course I'll have to spend the last day at least in B.A. again, to leave from there. In between, what places do you recommend? I prefer to go where it's not too cold, and don't want to spend a lot of time or money traveling. Have been thinking of the northwest for about 6 days. Advice?
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Roberto
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Post Number: 378
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Claudia, some of the northwest is bound to be cold. In addition, many excursions are at altitude so even colder. Both Salta and Jujuy can see lows in the 40's. I would consider visiting Tucuman, the smallest argentine state. It offers some interesting, remote attractions in places like Tafi del valle (www.tafidelvalle.com) and weather will probably be a little milder.

You can also consider short escapades while headquartering in BA. A nice day trip to Colonia comes to mind but you will still have to contend with some cold weather. Another idea would be to extend your trip in Misiones and see beyond the Iguazu falls. There are other areas of that state that can be explored but it all depends on what you want from the trip.
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Santiago Bengolea
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Username: Santiagov

Post Number: 39
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 12:12 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Claudia:

As usual Roberto offers excellent information to his forum visitors. Regarding Tafi del Valle in Tucuman, thereīs a estancia that I personally donīt know (yet), but a friend of mine and friend of the estancia owners, always recomends me to visit. I buy from him cheeses ( Yummi !)made at this estancia that are well known in the worldide gourmet niche.
Here in BA, they are offered at fancy and expensive restaurants as the one close to Hotel Alvear called La Bourgogne.
Try the web of the estancia that may help more than my words :-).. Enjoy Argentina

http://www.estancialascarreras.com/en.quienessomos .php

I do not recommend Colonia and the Delta Islands in winter as it maybe too cold to navigate, I do tour visitors to Tigre Delta( NOT to Colonia) but only on sunny days and only from 11 pm to 4pm aprox.as later gets cold. If interested give a look at www.barbacharters.com.ar
There are other cheaper nautical options than mine, for example if you take from Tigre Pier Interisleņa or Sturla public tours (aprox. 1 hour)that are fun too.

Guess by far Misiones is the best option regarding somehow hot weather. El Dorado, Ruinas de San Ignacio (Jesuit ruins),Oberá and other small towns are a excellent choices, you may need to rent a car.
Try welcomeargentina.com (Misiones) for some more ideas, hope this helps :-)
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darshana shah
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Our family is trying to visit Argentina in June/ July for about 10-12 days.

Can we still see the glaciers?
If not can you tell me what we can do in the 10-12 days we are planning

we live in Houston - Texas

Thanks


Darshana
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Roberto
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Post Number: 438
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 1:16 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

darshana, yes, you can still visit the glaciers during June/July. Weather permitting, excursions should be completed normally. Be aware of shorter days!
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grace hahn
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Roberto,

I'm exploring July travel options (I know, I'm late in planning!), but I'm interested in visiting Argentina with my boyfriend. We'd like to leave New York Friday evening and return back to New York the following Sunday.

Ideally, we'd like to fly into Buenos Aires and spend a 3 or 4 days in BA, just exploring the city. But we'd also like to hit either Mendoza, Salta, or Iguaza (ideally, we'd like to go to ALL). Which would you recommend that would fit best into our schedule? It's so tough to choose...especially with the time constraints.

We want to see as much as we can...but I keep reminding myself that this won't be our last trip to Argentina. Things we want to get out of the trip:
- rural hiking
- small village authentic food/drink (wine!)
- must-eat stops along the way

How much do you think this trip would be for us? It looks like flights from nyc-BA are about $1000, which seems kind of pricey. Is it b/c this is so last minute?

ANY help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!!!
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grace hahn
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:16 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I should mention that I would love to see El Calafate and Bariloche (weather permitting)!
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Roberto
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Post Number: 441
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Grace, you might be able to hit 3 of your selected destinations if carefully planned. First, I think Salta is a bit out of the way so I would consider it for a second trip. Same for Bariloche and Calafate. Given that you are traveling during July you will have to contend with winter here. Iguazu is ideal in that you will find warmer climate (tropical jungle) and Buenos Aires' winter is nothing like New York's. Mendoza may get fairly cold, specially in some of the high altitude excursions. All things considered, I would explore:

BA: lots of must-eateries.
Mendoza: authentic food/drink (wine specially), perhaps hiking.
Iguazu: warmer climate and *maybe* some walks/hiking.

One way to build this itinerary will have you flying straight to Iguazu upon arrival to BA, to spend Sat/Sun in the Falls. Flying back to BA on Monday to spend the nights of Mon/Tue/Wed and flying to Mendoza on Thursday to spend the nights of Th/Fri and Sat. Then, on Sunday morning, you can fly back to BA for your flight back to NY that same night. Many of our clients leave their luggages at home with us that day since they have to take a flight back to the US late at night.

The main problem with a trip like this is that you will be running a bit and not have time for, say, hiking. In Iguazu, you may only have time for a full day excursion to the Falls and that's it. When planning, consider all the time it will take you to get to the hotels (local transfers + flights) even if there are no delays. You will also have to take into account the shedule for certain tours and the return flights. This is what complicates most trip programs. With 3 nights in BA and 3 in Mendoza you can cover plenty of ground though.

I paid $950 for a Miami-Bue-Miami ticket two weeks ago and I am looking at prices for my trip next week and they are similar. Not too many bargains out there and flights are full.

As for pricing a trip like the above it can only be done with specifics on the table. You could get 4 stars hotels at a decent rate $65/$85 night, tours are inexpensive and meals are (great) cheap. Taxis still cheap too.
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Gerald deLaunay
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 9:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

My wife and I are in our late 50's. We will arrive in BA on August 10, and will spend 3 weeks in Argentina, before going to Cuzco, Peru. I want to do one week of Spanish upon arrival, but other than that we have no schedule. Our tentative plans were to go to Cordoba on the 13th and do the school there. However that is not set in stone. Can you offer some suggestions?
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Roberto
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Post Number: 448
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 12:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Gerald, taking spanish lessons in Cordoba is a great idea!

You can also explore -as an alternative- the University of Buenos Aires spanish classes for foreigners. I heard they were very good. One thing you may want to consider while you are here, is visiting the northern provinces. A 7 day trip should cover Tucuman, Salta and Jujuy. This visit may integrate nicely with your spanish program and you might come into contact with our roots and traditions.
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Tatiana Martinez Zavala
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:50 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hola, me llamo Tatiana, soy mexicana, y viajare con dos amigas a Argentina por un mes de mediados de junio a mediados de julio. Nuestra ruta es buenos aires, bariloche, puerto madryn, calafate y ushuaia. Pensabamos transportarnos en tren pero he leido que recomiendas mas el micro, por que? Me podrias mandar tarifas de ambas? Que otras ciudades nos recomiendas en estas fechas? La cosa es que nuestro presupuesto es muy bajo, pensamos en un viaje de mochileras y no queremos gastar mas de 1000 USD. sin contar el avion claro. Bueno seria todo por ahora. Muchas gracias!
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Roberto
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Post Number: 451
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hola Tatiana, es que practicamente ya no hay mas trenes de pasajeros en la Argentina. Durante los 90's los ferrocarriles fueron desmantelados y puestos fuera de circulacion. Solo han quedado rutas de transporte comerciales (industria) y algunos pocos ramales conectando con el interior. Es posible llegar a Bariloche en tren, pero hasta donde conozco, seria necesario primero llegar en micro a Bahia Blanca. Micros abundan en nuestro pais. Tienes para elegir diferentes dias, diferentes horas durante el dia y diferentes clases. Algunas rutas y algunas lineas de micros de larga distancia ofrecen coches-cama y servicio de desayuno.

Tambien, los micros pueden mantener el costo de tu viaje barato. Como mochileras y con presupuesto de usd $1000 tal vez lleguen bien para visitar todos los destinos mencionados. Aunque debes tener en cuenta que Junio/Julio es nuestro invierno y las condiciones para acampanar en Bariloche y el resto del sur argentino son menos que propicias, sino imposibles. De hecho, no estoy seguro que puedan hacerlo en Calafate/Ushuaia. Es mejor que estudien esto en detalle. Una vez alli, no hay demasiadas opciones y pueden encontrarse con alternativas muy caras.

Las tarifas de micro las puedes consultar directamente en la estacion Terminal de Micros de Retiro. Las siguientes son las companias que harian parte de los destinos:

Bariloche
ANDESMAR S.A. 4313-3650/4242
LA NUEVA CHEVALLIER 40005255
CRUCERO DEL NORTE S.R.L. 4315-1652/0478
EL VALLE S.A.T. 4315-7700
T.A.C 4312-7012 / 4313-3632
VIA BARILOCHE S.R.L. 4315-7700

Puerto Madryn
DON OTTO 4315-7700
EXPRESO EL PINGUINO 4315-4438
T.A LA ESTRELLA S.A. 4313-1700
QUE BUS 4311-9229
RUTA PATAGONIA 4315-9430
T.A.C 4312-7012 / 4313-3632

Calafate
EXPRESO EL PINGUINO 4315-4438
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Roberto
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Post Number: 452
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 2:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you everyone for your patience.

We had Kevin (KM) -an expert perl programmer- taking a look at the inner workings of the forum. He posted a series of *foo* messages just to test the script. We are trying to improve its performance and make it a safer place.

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