| Author | Message | ||
     Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 653 Registered: 12-2004 |
Will try to answer this here... | ||
| Eric Verbrugge New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hi ! I am planning to drive, next summer, from Cordoba to Tucuman, than Cafayate, than Salta. can you give me the distance (s) in KM and in time ? Thks. | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 654 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hi Eric, welcome! Cordoba - Tucuman: 519.05 km Tucuman - Cafayate: 110.48 km Cafayate - Salta: 154.63 km Time? This will depend on what you drive and I would not really know... | ||
| Eric Verbrugge New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 2 Registered: 8-2006 |
Thank you Roberto, one cannot be more precise indeed ! This is a great help for me. Regarding time I meant to ask, it this going to be motorway cruising at 80 miles/hour or small winding roads at 40 miles hour ? I much appreciate your help. | ||
| Eric Verbrugge New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 3 Registered: 8-2006 |
Roberto, More questions, tell me when you had enough of me ! I have decided to drive from Cordoba to Cafayate because the flight Cordoba/Tucuman by AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS - AR 1490 is not on any more I am told. Where would you reccomend that I spend the night enroute about halfway between Cordoba and Cafayate ? Thks again. Eric | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 655 Registered: 12-2004 |
In general, forget about cruising at 80 miles/hour and US-like highways. The route to Tucuman seems to be ok, no pebble roads. The route to Cafayate will definitely have winding roads and I doubt you want to do it at 80 m/h. Not because of speeding but because you will miss the spectacular environment. If you can make it to Tafi del Valle in Tucuman, that is the place (http://www.tafidelvalle.com/arg/index.php). It is a somewhat solitary destination but it reflects the area perfectly and one of a kind! You may have to drive about 375 miles to get there... One more thing, getting closer to Tafi and later Cafayate no chance to drive fast or risk an accident. (Message edited by admin on August 20, 2006) | ||
| Eric Verbrugge New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 4 Registered: 8-2006 |
Thks Roberto. I checked the URL. Solitary indeed ! What do you think of Santiago del Estero, stay overnight at Hotel Carlos V ? | ||
| Tom Woodson Intermediate Member Username: Diverdown48 Post Number: 112 Registered: 6-2006  |
Argentina is a big country, generally considered to be the tenth largest in the world. Possibly as big as all of Europe. But that is just a guess. In Buenos Aires province the roads tend to be straight and in good condition. I have traveled on many at up to 140 kilometers per hour in the country and was not concerned about the speed. This was on paved roads of course and well marked for curves etc. Sometimes trucks, buses and farm machinery will slow you down. The paved roads are similiar to the two lane hiways here in the US. Many even have the white lines along the edges like here in Florida. In the bigger cities you will find multi lane roads. The other provinces may have roads with more curves due to the terrain. Again, Argentina is a big country and my travels have been limited to Bs As province. | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 659 Registered: 12-2004 |
Eric, you can give it a try but I don't know much about Santiago del Estero. Tafi, as well as other areas surrounding Tucuman are mostly underpopulated areas. For some, this is the beauty of Argentina since this theme is repeated over and over again... | ||
| Eric Verbrugge New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 5 Registered: 8-2006 |
Thanks Roberto, if you don't mind I will have more questions later on. | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 660 Registered: 12-2004 |
Ask away, if not me someone will answer. Tom is usually *very* helpful when he has the time... (thank you btw) | ||
| Eric Verbrugge New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 6 Registered: 8-2006 |
Roberto, Tom, Thks your help sofar. Now the big one : Any suggestions, critics, warnings about my programm ? During January 2007 : 3 Days Buenos Aires, Fly to iguazù, stay there 2 Days, Fly to Cordoba (via BA unfortunately) stay 2 Days, drive with rental car to Santiago del Estero, one night there than onwards to Cafayate for 3 Days, Fly from Salta to Mendoza (via BA again unfortunately) 3 Days there, drive with rental car to Santiago de Chile. | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 664 Registered: 12-2004 |
Sounds good to me, an off-the-beaten-path route for sure. You could also drive the Salta-Mendoza leg but may make you exhausted. Bear in mind you will get many stops in airports and plenty of mileage. Plan for that or you'll get tired and grumpy really quickly. Never forget Argentina is vastly underpopulated. | ||
| Eric Verbrugge New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2006 |
Roberto, Thks your answer, provoques more questions, distance Salta-Mendoza by road ? How difficult are airport security screenings in Argetina ? Can one travel with laptop/phone/cameras and toiletteries in carry-on bags as we used to do before the US paranoia started ? I do not want to sound negative but I am, along with other frequent travellers, convinced that all this is useless, that a determined and well organized suicide mission is simply impossibe to prevent, alas. Do you administer a Chile Travel forum as well ? Can I ask you about Chile ? If not, do you know of a corresponding forum ? | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 667 Registered: 12-2004 |
Eric, Salta and Mendoza (capital cities) are about 1250 km apart. Driving south through federal highway #68 you cross Cabra Corral through Cafayate. It looks like depending on the route you may have about 250 km of pebbles along the journey but you may need to study maps in-depth. This is as much knowledge as I have at this point. What I recommend is that once you get to Salta you ask at your place of stay. Everyone will be really helpful and tell you exactly what you need to know. As for this part of the trip, I think it might be worth driving but can't make it too fast. This are not interstate highways like US ones, but two lanes -well built and in good shape- roads but that cross ravines and mountains. | ||
| Tom Woodson Intermediate Member Username: Diverdown48 Post Number: 133 Registered: 6-2006 |
Eric, when I flew out of Buenos Aires IAP three days aftter the London arrests the rules were this.\ No problem for my laptom or other electronics. Since I do not carry any liquids as carry on I do not know for sure if there was a prohibition but I was asked if I had any in my carry on by the screener for Aerolineas. I heard they were not letting anyone carry liquids on the planes but that was not an official source. | ||
| Tom Woodson Intermediate Member Username: Diverdown48 Post Number: 136 Registered: 6-2006 |
Eric, your plan sounds like a good adventure. Good luck. You can always rest once you get home and back to work. | ||
| Eric New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 8 Registered: 8-2006 |
Roberto, Tom, Thanks your answers. If anybody can, later on, from experience answer about carry-on liquids and other toileteries on Argentinian flights I will be grateful, it is good to know beforehand. Does this forum cover Chile ? If not, do you know of one which does ? | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 670 Registered: 12-2004 |
No coverage of Chile, only ocassional references when someone's trip involves destinations in Chile but those comments may not go further than mentions to crossing points and such... I would not know about chilean forums. | ||
| Eric New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 9 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hi Robert, I am happy I can give you some info for once. Chile travel forum (and it's real good) http://forum.virtualtourist.com/forum-2192-3-Trave l-Chile-1-forum.html | ||
| Eric New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 10 Registered: 8-2006 |
Thought I should also mention that if theVirtualtourist Chilean Forum is indeed good, the Argentinian version is much less interesting ... probably because of you ;-) | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 671 Registered: 12-2004 |
Thank you, Eric. Actually, we have great posters here contributing tons of good information all the time. Great to know we can send people to check other forums when asking about Chile. | ||
| Tom Woodson Intermediate Member Username: Diverdown48 Post Number: 140 Registered: 6-2006 |
I have updated my web site if anyone cares to take a look http://www.argentinahunting.4t.com | ||
| Eric New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 11 Registered: 8-2006 |
More questions please. Friends, who lived 30 year ago in Argentina but never returned since are telling me 1° Forget about Cordoba which is interesting to Argentinians because of the historical aspect but not so much for visitors. 2° Don't drive Cordoba to Salta, boring they say, but instead fly to Salta and drive down to Mendoza which road is much more scenic. What do you think ? What is the driving distance Salta/Mendoza ? Where to stay overnight on the way ? Many thanks for your time. Eric | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 690 Registered: 12-2004 |
Eric, Salta and Mendoza are about 1250 km apart. I would not know which is the best place for an overnight stop but in general, this route is very scenic. I think your friends are right on the money. | ||
| Eric New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2006 |
Thks Roberto. I will follow their and your advice. I intend to make two stops on the way, one in La Rioja (stay Naindo Park Hotel) , second in San Juan (Vinas del Sol Hotel)any objections or ideas hereabout from yourself or others appreciated. Eric | ||
| kirsty New member Username: Kirstygb Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006 |
Hi, could you please tell me how far it is from Bariloche to Trelew? Also do you know if there are night buses running between the two and which one & times? thanks | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 771 Registered: 12-2004 |
Bariloche - Trelew: 900km or 555 miles. There are buses for sure. Try contacting the bus terminal at (54+2944) 432860 Bus companies that may do this route could be: Don Otto - Transportadora Patagónica Andesmar El Condor - La Estrella | ||
| kirsty New member Username: Kirstygb Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2006 |
Thanks Roberto. If we can't make it to Trelew, are there other places e.g. near El Calafate or Bariloche where we can see the penguins, sea life etc? | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 773 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kirsty, I am afraid the other option is even further away. There are two large colonies of penguins in Argentina (that I know of) that are available for turists (unlike the one in Bahía Franklin which has been visited by scientists). One is located in Punta Tombo (Chubut) and the other one resides in Ushuaia (Puerto Almanza). Tierra del fuego is about 2300 km way. | ||
| Erica Cranley New member Username: Poots Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2006 |
I was wondering how long it would take on a bus from Buenos Aires to Iguazu Falls? | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 785 Registered: 12-2004 |
Depends on the bus line but approximately 12 hours. | ||
| Ray Dingli New member Username: Raydingli Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006 |
Hello Roberto, We are a family of five of which four are Argentininians. Next April we will be travelling to NW Argentina. We will hire a car and see Salta Tucuman and Jujuy. Is this enough time. Is the tren de las Nubes operating? What is best fly to cordoba and drive form there or drive direct from BA. Is there an airline that flies from Salta to Cusco - or do we have to go through Lima ( this would be only two days - see Macchu Picchu and return) Thanks | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 789 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hello Ray, one month for Salta, Tucuman and Jujuy should suffice. Tren de las nubes at present is not operational. Unfortunately, there is now way to tell the status for Ap. 2007. The best is always to fly from BA to Tucuman. Driving will be a long way but it all depends on what you have in mind. If you want to fly to Cuzco and are staying at Salta I am afraid you will have to fly Salta-Bue-Lima. | ||
| Eric New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 13 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hello Roberto, I read somewhere that foreigners can buy airline tickets in Argentina, for domestic flights, at much better prices than outside of the country. True or not ? If yes, can you indicate a local travel agent ? Thks. Eric | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 796 Registered: 12-2004 |
Yes, foreigners can buy tickets in Argentina for local destinations but it will make no difference, if I understand what you are getting at... Any local travel agent is required to fill in specific details about a passenger before an air ticket can be issued among which are nationaly and document Id (passport). Even if you ask an argentine friend to buy this for you, you will be required to show documents at the airport that match the ticket information. Tickets are non-transferable. I would not know specific names/addresses of local travel agents but if you walk through Florida street you will be see many travel offices, in addition to agents mentioned in other argentine forums. If you run out of options contact erna at erna@travelsur.net. | ||
| Eric New member Username: Travel2007 Post Number: 14 Registered: 8-2006 |
Thanks Roberto, I mailed Erna, Eric | ||
| Bruno Bruderer New member Username: Bbr Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2007 |
Salta - Tucuman - Mendoza We are planning a trip in September 2007 from Salta to Mendoza by 4 WD car. We have been told that the Estancia Colomé is very beautiful - any other suggestions to stay overnight and "must have seen" on the road along the ruta 40 ? Furthermore any suggestions regarding the car hiring in order to avoid the expensive "one-way" hiring ? Is there a website where we can calculate the most important distances in Argentina ? | ||
| Roberto Board Administrator Username: Admin Post Number: 1212 Registered: 12-2004 |
Bruno, try this for distances."AR" is Argentina. | ||
| Mariano Rodriguez New member Username: Argentinatolet Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2007 |
Hello Bruno: You can find the information you are looking for in the following sites: http://www.ruta0.com/ http://www.vialidad.gov.ar/formularios/distancias/ distancia.asp http://www.turismo.gov.ar/esp/atra/ruta/mruta.htm Cheers  argentinatolet.com | ||
| Tom Advanced Member Username: Diverdown48 Post Number: 415 Registered: 6-2006 |
Roberto, bueno site gracias |
