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Bob Frassinetti
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 4:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Checking around and being doing some reading, and listening, and so some thoughts on this today’s crises and Global Warming, seems to me that the crises is putting a stop in a way to weather change, or at least helping. That’s why the crash, banks and many monopolies have been ignoring the change coming, and the need to switch into a new economical system, that contemplates the need to a stop to consumption and production that effects the weather,…… so, the crash, funds have changed hands, in very large scale, forcing a crises ………. An easy example are the large American Car companies with their gas consumption vehicles will be forced out of the market, by consumers conscience as well as the need to enforce the change by this crises. Like we say, here in Argentina, “follow the money” and see then who responsible for the crises………… and as to winners, you will also see winners like the “Big Pharmaceutical” companies, like “Pzfeger” that just merged in the middle of this crises. And I wonder why,…….


Up to know everyone is blaming the system for the collapse, it’s a fatal mistake, as the system doesn’t control itself, but gets its information from what is happening, its input is from outside the system, meantime, the crises is deepening and forecasts are saying that it will still get worse before it gets better, so does this mean the stock markets will still drop to new lows, I think so,……… what do you think!
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Mark
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 6:50 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Bob, I think we will see a lower market in the near future. The banking system which has been limping is now having its wheels fall off. There needs to be some type of closure to this huge problem. Until then I see lower prices. That said however I think one day soon we will wake up and the worst of the banking mess will be over but the stock market will have beat you to the punch and will be already back off its lows. So timing it, looking to financials will be tricky. I am looking instead at Valuations where some say we have another 1500 DOW points to fall before we hit the low valuations matching other bear market freefalls. cheers
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Bob Frassinetti
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Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Today’s Doomsday: Is There A Solution To Global Warming? Vs Preparing the next crisis


Just like when the Norman invaded the area that we know today to be the England and inventoried the English territory, it’s natural resources as well as the potentiality of its working force, our developing forces and resources for the future are being sort of inventoried in these days.

In a world of constant change and development, of industrialization and artificial intelligence, the other side to this coin of development is the destruction of natural resources and in the end our own home. Global warming resulting from the use of heavy and harmful gases and combustibles is affecting our everyday life, even to the smallest degree. Unbearable heat, outrageous flooding, new and complex diseases are just some of the ways this unconscious bond we’ve tided with nature and our surrounding ecosystem impact on us.

We’re pledging our future, and the future of upcoming generations, and it has to stop. As to this present crises, is helping, ........ we must find a way of repositioning ourselves in this modern world in order to change our current situation.

Of course these words above are no novelty to the reader. This is a hot subject, we read about it in the papers, we listen to it on the radio or on TV.

It is also very often to read or hear about the disregard paid to this matter specially among South American countries, unlike other ones.

This is a half truth. For indeed these countries use obsolete technology is certain fields impacting -in this way -negatively on our ecosystem. However, these countries are also in such concern about this matter that many of the most important international gatherings to discuss these matters have taken place in South America, such as the Rio conference and the recent one in Buenos Aires early in December 2004. But it’s not my interest to talk politics in this piece, but to point out the crucial strategic importance of these countries within our future as mankind.

Argentina, one of the world’s greatest cattle and grain producer has always depended on its natural resources. And it’s important to point out that in these broad and gorgeous land, there are still unspoiled paradises of all kinds, all geographical characteristics and climate conditions.

In these days of foreseeable water shortage and pollution –of all kinds, noise, air, food, ......... In short in these days of artificial life conditioned by the way humanity has unconsciously disregarded it’s most precious possession, the natural world we as humans have evolved to control and manage…

Bob Frassinetti.
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Bob Frassinetti
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Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 9:48 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

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Our “PRE-PLANNED” scenario delineated above in no way ignores the true state of the national economy, international finance or global economic picture. In fact we are, and have been, fully cognizant of the fact that the true state of every market – real estate, equity, bond, commodities, currency, derivative, etc. has been in shambles for many years, just waiting for the Perfect Storm to come around and blow it all away.
It has been obvious to many of us that each of these markets have operated according to the whim of a very few individuals with extremely concentrated power to manipulate. Therefore, all markets can be artificially inflated, as we have seen time and time again. Likewise, they can be artificially deflated, sometimes rather quickly for effect, as we have seen. “The Invisible Hand” of the market is just that – a very carefully hidden hand that makes a complete and total mockery of every economic and financial theory ever advanced. Time for a lot of us to accept this fact of modern economic life.
Perhaps we should now take off our blinders and admit that while, yes, all of the indicators are, and have been, there for a catastrophic economic meltdown & financial cataclysm, these events are still completely controllable. All of us have seen bubble after bubble grow and balloon, and merge and overlap, and inextricably interpenetrate each other, until all we have is one massive bubble ready to pop. But, when will it pop?! It will pop when the confidence level is sufficiently undermined by the very same MEDIA that controls the flow of the relevant information. And who, pray tell, controls the media, if not The Invisible Hand? Clearly, the real Market Oracles are not a part of that MSM juggernaut. Therefore, it is incumbent upon each oracle to get it right, since they are the very best sources of pertinent financial and economic data/information available.
The inevitability of self destructive capitalism does not preclude the process of controlled destruction. As the system eats itself, there are those who are eaten, and those who eat. We are witnessing this devolution in living color, as we both write and read these words. The “strong” at the top of the pyramid have always done the eating, as the “weak” at the bottom provide the bone for the stew. The only major difference at this particular, and final, feast is that the internet has allowed for an unprecedented explosion of true and accurate information in real time. Therefore, the playing field has been leveled like never before. The little guy or gal, for the first time ever, has the opportunity to take back a little, or a lot, of his/her power (WEALTH), should he/she so choose.
Even as the Wall Street gangs team up with the opportunistic political class, as well as the numerous corporate/legal jackals and lobby parasites, to effectuate the most massive redistribution of wealth (aka in your face THEFT) in recorded history, something has profoundly and fundamentally changed. There is a dynamic at work which can alter the game just enough to potentially turn the pyramid upside down. This, however, requires a no nonsense, “look in the mirror with raw honesty” approach. Then we (the oracles) will not deign to render a judgment that is not fully baked. And the recommendations we make are more likely to be issued in the best interest of ALL, especially for those who are in a position of class disadvantage, financial ignorance or structured powerlessness.
So, we have made it clear that all the forces have been put into place for the upcoming monetary apocalypse. But even these forces are controlled, each and every one of them, all the way up to the top. It’s probably a very good time to contemplate just who it is that resides at the peak of the global financial decision-making process. And, their agenda?!?

HINT: Let’s get serious for a moment. Most of us know by now that the Crash of ’29, as well as the Great Depression that followed, were a part of an intricately engineered fiscal armageddon calculated as a necessary prelude to the real Armageddon known as WWII. Historically speaking, a man without a job, or prospects for employment in his homeland, is much more likely to hire himself out to his gumment as a mercenary fighting in a foreign land. Hasn’t this been their (TPTW)* formula for both war and wealth creation for eons?! Although it has always worked like a charm (see “War is a Racket” by Major General Smedley Butler), wethinks the charm has finally worn out. Yes, that old fashioned Hegelian Dialectic based ‘problem – reaction – solution’ MO has finally run its course. We also think this misbegotten plan to foist WWIII upon us has somehow been thwarted by the real TPTB. Yes, they’ve finally been snoockered! And they don’t even know it yet.
Someone, please email them this article … … … ASAP.

*The Powers That Were

Prediction #1

As we all sit back and wait for this year’s October Surprise, please know that it came a little bit early this year on September 15th which will forever be known as BLACK MONDAY. Actually, the entire month of October is set up to be a series of Black Monday’s, as well as every other day of the week. It’s really a good time to brace yourself since this year’s election cycle, and beyond, will bring with it a whole new season of surprises. Things like the beginning of the end of FIAT money – the real root cause of all our financial problems and economic ills. This foundational flaw, together with all of the multi-layered financial/economic/accounting mechanisms and schemes that have insidiously crept into the system, are the ‘not talked about’ institutionalized culprits and structural deformities that really need to go. Without them, the perps wouldn’t be so tempted to stack the deck against us all the time.
The only legitimate currency is that which is backed by GOLD, or some other precious commodity that is universally valued, and issued directly by the US Government, not a privately owned, organized crime syndicate like the FED. Debt driven, fractional-reserve banking – the real bane of global finance – will then be banished from the planet forever, along with the overlords of disaster capitalism, institutionalized usury & loan-sharking (e.g. World Bank & International Monetary Fund), as well as their economic hitmen. Finally, the central organizing principle of modern society, and especially Western Civilization, will no longer be: maximizing shareholders’ wealth.

Prediction #2:

Another little surprise will come in the form of an announcement that goes something like this: The USA was conceived to be a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, not a democracy. The founding fathers would be absolutely horrified to see the “mob rule by the privileged elites” into which this once great nation has degenerated. Every political philosopher knows that democracy, when sufficiently dumbed down, will always devolve into a despotic tyranny. Therefore, the wholesale exportation of our fraudulent notion of democracy, and its supposed freedoms (to buy, buy, buy after watching the boob tube* hucksters), by the political and corporate classes must be reconsidered. And it will be soon, on a new channel during this “Fall” season’s new lineup! Stay tuned —
Another announcement will be made in the not too distant future about a commonly known business entity known as the CORPORATION** – the main huckster of this ‘brand’ of faux democracy . Surely, if the devil were to ever choose the perfect form in which to enter in order to carry out his nefarious designs – Inc. is it. Is there any other entity on earth – person or party, organization or association, government or institution, jurisdiction or bureaucracy, club or group, fraternity or sorority, etc. that can function with such impunity as it hides behind the shield of LIMITED LIABILITY. Those two words have given complete cover for the flagrant and wanton destruction of planet Earth.
You name it – oil slicked coastlines, razed rainforests, beaches strewn with dead dolphins and whales. Not to mention the complete erosion of human, civil and national rights, wherever INC. decides to set up shop. Go to India and visit Bhopal of Union Carbide fame. Or the Punjab and talk to the thousands of widows of farmers who committed suicide because of Monsanto’s “seedless seeds”. Or go to just about anywhere on that subcontinent where a Walmart is being protested or Coca Cola is stealing the precious water for its bottling plants.
We all know the deal. It’s the one where the individual, and his/her environment, is always trampled in favor of the corporate interest. Like we’ve said, “optimizing stockholder profit” will soon be history, as the cease and desist orders are not far from being issued. At this point, it’s really just a matter of execution.

Prediction #3

There is a very profound and significant connection between 9/11/01 and 9/11/08 that may be difficult for many to fully embrace. But here it goes –
The OMEN that 911 truly was, looks a little bit like THE LORD OF THE RINGS.
Remember the Twin Towers? When they came down in NYC, it was a message to humankind that the reign of the Almighty Dollar was coming to an end. As a nation’s currency goes, so goes its destiny. Her financial strength and economic prowess, too, was waning and soon to be greatly diminished. Just as the WTC (financial capital of the world) was pulverized into dust, the US Dollar would be swept into the ash heap of history. Just as we see it collapsing all around us, exactly 7 years after the original 911 apocalyptic events.
When the Ring of Power was finally destroyed, like the Pentagon (ring-shaped command center of the military-industrial complex) was mortally wounded and damaged, the message was equally clear. Her military might and superior force were reduced to rubble in a an eye shooot. She would soon see the demise of Her all-pervasive state sponsored terrorism. This, because she had lost all moral ascendancy. Besides, the empire could no longer be sustained politically, financially, practically or ethically, as the seeds of its own destruction had fully sprouted. The most fatal seed grew into that extremely corrupt and predatory form of corporate crony capitalism which was so socially unconscious, and so environmentally unaware, it was quite doomed from the very start.
The GOOD NEWS is that this nation – its people – will now be compelled to beat their “swords into plowshares” and their “spears into pruning hooks”.
Just as the Phoenix rose from its ashes, so too will America ascend to even greater heights. As long, she ascends with the guidance of the highest of ideals, loftiest of principles and noblest of intentions. And She reforms, and transforms Herself, in good faith, in earnest and with haste.
As a modern day prophet said in the days immediately following September 11, 2001:
“America, Wake up ! ! ! Seize this God-given opportunity. There is no more time to dally in fear and ignorance and greed. For yours is a destiny that must serve as a beacon of Light and Love and Hope to the world. Make haste, the time is drawing nigh!”

*Also known as TV – the most lethal and underestimated Weapon of Mass Destruction of the postmodern age (Peruse “Television And The Hive Mind” @ MackWhite.com).
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WTMendoza.com
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Registered: 7-2007


Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 12:50 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I wonder if Gollum has anything to do with this.

I bet gold ends up overrated, and the dollar, with it's prescribed role in the world, is kept by the powers that be to be the symbolic currency for at least our lifetimes.

But yeah it is pretty screwed up how much the possibility is for the pimped buck to stimulate higher long term inflation.

Americans are indeed pretty resilient and resourceful, at least a healthy chunk of them..lets see what happens....

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