Post Number: 1
|Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 9:57 pm: |
My partner has been headhunted for a job in Buenos Aires and we have been invited to visit in a couple of weeks.
We have been trying to in some way benchmark this to our current lifestyle in London.
I have trawled the web looking for relevant information and apart from a few tourist sites can't find that much.
Any ideas of where to look and I apologise if this is off topic!
Also I am concerned that I will be able to find employment at a similar level to that in the UK?
Any advise please?
Post Number: 42
|Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 1:41 am: |
Buenos Aires will be appealing to you in many different ways. For one, coming from London it will appear incredibly cheap. Therefore, if your partner keeps getting paid in pounds you will more likely be able to maintain your london lifestyle and more. Buenos Aires, and Argentina in general, has some past roots to the British and you will notice this while living there. In many ways, Buenos Aires is closer to british culture than to american culture, in spite of the Malvinas war (Falklands) and the many differences.
I would not know what kind of information you are after but I am not suprised that there is not much on the web. If you can be more precise I might be able to give you a few hints. Specifically, what are you into? what are your preferences? You can always email me privately at firstname.lastname@example.org. As for your employment opportunities down there I am afraid this might be an area where you could end up being disappointed. Generally speaking, job opportunities have been deppresed for quite some time (measured in many years) and unless you have specific skills/contacts it may take time for you to find anything. You will also need to consider how to work legally while there. The good news is that you may find entrepreneurial opportunities instead. What comes to mind is trying to export anything local to the UK. Chances are whatever you can ship back it will be really affordable... Anyway, these are just a few idea. Let me know.
Post Number: 2
|Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 8:00 am: |
Hi there Roberto
Thank you so much for your response. Must be a full time job administrating this site.
Salary negotiations are still underway but at this stage pay has been offered approx half in UK and half in Argentina peso. We need to try to work out what type of standard of living we could hope to have in comparison to the UK.
How far will our pesos go?
What is the best way to get paid?
Also yes I think there are many entrepreneurial opportunities to be investigated. I would probably be interested in tourism and property redevelopment. In respect of property, is finance available or is everything cash up front?
However good standards of business practice appear hard to find from what I have read so far.
Post Number: 3
|Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 8:17 am: |
Is there a British Expat community webpage anywhere or alike?
Post Number: 12
|Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 9:55 am: |
Hi London S.
I live in Buenos Aires permanently. I'm from the USA originally. Even though I'm not from London I can tell you that it's MUCH cheaper here than most places in the world. BA is ranked as one of the cheapest major cities to live in the world. After living here more than a year, I can tell you it is spot on.
I've traveled all over the world. I've been to London several times and I don't know how you Brits do it. It's so very expensive there. You will find BA extremely affordable with the strong Sterling.
I imagine they are giving you an excellent housing allowance? I don't know how big of a place you need but to put things in perspective, you can rent an apartment in one of the best areas of Buenos Aires in Recoleta - unfurnished apartment with about 150 sq. meters for u$s 1,300 to 1,600 per month. Equivalent to living in a posh apartment in Kensington. I had a friend that lived in Kensington in a small cracker jack box and she was paying 900 POUNDS per month.
You can rent houses in the suburbs for an affordable price as well. The cost of living here is really low. Groceries, restaurants, taxi rides, cost of entertainment like clubs, bars, theatre, concerts, etc. are cheap compared to London and the USA.
You will live like a king. To put things in perspective, I spend no more than u$s 3,500 per month and I live like a KING. (That isn't including business expenses which run much much higher because I am an owner of 3 companies). With that u$s 3,500 per month I dine out 3 times a day everyday, I live in the best area of town, I routinely go clothes shopping for myself and my girlfriend. Go to various concerts, travel a bit, I take many many taxis each day, cellphone, utility bills, etc. You might spend more or less depending where you live and what type of place you're renting. In the USA, I would spend possible triple that amount and I honestly enjoy my life here in Buenos Aires much more.
It's timely that you posted this about the UK. I was just contacted by the British Argentina Chamber of Commerce in London. You might want to contact them. They contacted me and I will probably meet them later this year. They seem to be a good source of information for Brits.
There are many entrepreneurial opportunities. I started 3 of my own companies here including one consulting company that assists foreigners from the USA and UK in starting corporations here. You are correct, doing business here is frustrating and it can be difficult to find good people so be very careful. Real estate is one of the safest plays in my opinion and it's the area that I focused on but there are many opportunities. I started a Venture capital and investment company to capitalize on unique business opportunities here.
Good luck. You will enjoy living here if you are making Sterling.
Post Number: 14
|Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 10:11 am: |
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Post Number: 43
|Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 6:34 pm: |
Aquilalondon, Saint gave you a good overview in specific areas.
Buenos Aires is a cosmopolitan city, much like New York or Paris. You might be able to replicate some aspects of your london lifestyle with a few tweaks here and there. Food is much like in most of europe and we have a few british pubs as well in the Puerto Madero area. I think it is unrealistic to move to a new country and have it just the same way, but as days and months go by I am confident you will find pleasurable ways of spending your time and money. Argentina is a large country and inland destinations are just outstanding. The fact that some areas are underdeveloped only adds to their charm.
Please bear in mind that 'porteños' -Buenos Aires city dwellers- have european roots and to some extent have inherited a bit of french and british culture so there are many families here that have enjoyed very high standards of living for a long time. It was only after the 2001 debacle that almost everyone was affected. I have no doubts you will be able to match your present standards of living provided we do not count day-to-day events. Daily life WILL feel different than in the UK. We are not even near US or UK efficiency and this becomes very noticeable in minor, meaningless events. Saint will agree with me that some days these frustations can add up making your day somewhat miserable, but you will also be able to stretch your money so much that you might be able to override these negative moments.
At present, you can get paid in any currency you prefer. There are no differences. Currency markets are now unregulated. Argentine pesos have stabilized if not gotten stronger in the last couple of years and the international strength of commodities markets bode well for this situation to prevail, at least for a while.
As for risks, Argentina has managed to work out its international debt and has closed deals with bondholders, all of which has further helped stabilized the economy but do not forget you will be moving to a country that declared bankruptcy only 4/5 years ago. The devastation was brutal and I am afraid you will see some of the aftermath. Having said this, yes, Argentina ALWAYS poses risk no matter how strong its currency has become or how steady the situation may look. Even if -like Saint- you can live like a king (queen in your case) for 3k a month it is good advice to keep handy a small parachute in your spatious walk-in closet. In a period of ten years you will surely have to use it once. This has been our colorful history for the past 50 years.
Credit markets have been recovering as of late and my friends in capital markets and BOD in private Banks tell me that there is an expansion, however, I really doubt this has extended to housing. I am pretty sure it is still easier to pay cash up front for a property in Buenos Aires than getting a loan from a Bank. Eventually, I can put you in contact with the right people or Saint can give you solid advice.
A few tidbits...
For USD $10 you can have an splendid meal with wine and dessert and for $20/25 you can dine with champagne (and have your hands kissed by the chef). I even got my cohibas there at half the price I usually pay in Miami. For USD $5 a cab will drive you around town for 30 minutes. I hardly remember having spent more than $3 in any one trip. For USD $430 -all included- you can visit the Iguazu Falls for 3 nights with roundtrip flight and a stay at a 5 stars hotel. If you shop around, for $1000/month you can rent a great house/flat in the best part of town. One caveat though, foreigners have been flooding Argentina for the last 2/3 years and prices have gone up a bit. There are now things that carry international prices (but not London prices).
In addition to what Saint contributed to the thread, here are a few more links you can check out:
British Embassy in Buenos Aires
British Art Center
Buenos Aires Herald
Centro Argentino Británico
25 de Mayo 586
I would stronlgy recommend contacting the daily newspaper Buenos Aires Herald. They will be very knowledgeable of what is going on with the british community down there. If anything, I am sure they do keep a low profile and have been for a long time. I doubt the british community in Buenos Aires is outspoken or very vocal about anything. There is one more organization I also recommend contacting. The "Sociedad Rural Argentina". This organization revolves around 'everything farm and rural' in Argentina, and its member base include the largest landowners and most cattle barons, some of whom may have british descent or ties. Even my ex-boss (15 years ago) at the largest argentine winery belonged to a british freemason organization...
Sociedad Rural Argentina
Sociedad Rural Argentina
(54) 011 4324 4700
Post Number: 4
|Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 10:00 am: |
Thank you so much Roberto and Saint for your excellent informative responses.
This has really helped. Just to confirm are you are both quoting prices in US dollars even though Argentina Peso is local currency?
What type of currency is accepted in BA?
Roberto depending upon our timetable we would both definately like to visit the Iguazu Falls this trip. I shall contact you privately once we know our confirmed flight dates. But I would expect it to be around the 10/11/12th August.
Also one more question. How much does an average/economy return flight to London cost from BA?
Saint.. A large house and all bills is offered as part of the package so we might want to rent something for weekends etc. Will have a better insight after our trip.
Post Number: 15
|Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 10:35 am: |
You're welcome London. Roberto is the real expert as he is from Buenos Aires, I believe. I have only been living here full-time a little over 1 year but I came down 20 times before that the past 3 years.
I quoted in U$S because we were mainly talking about property and property to purchase is priced in u$s. Just take whatever u$s we posted and multiply by 2.88 pesos.
I know many families here that were originally from the UK. Roberto is spot on. These families are very low key for the most part. At first when I met many of them I laughed because they speak English with a British accent. Many of these people studied English in British schools.
Roberto also makes a great point. I was not trying to imply even though you could live on u$s 3,500 a month people should drop everything and move here. It doesn't make sense for the majority of the people out there living in the USA or UK. In fact, I've always told people that unless you have a situation like London S. where you are making u$s, euros, Sterling, Yen, or whatever, you MUST start your own business. Unless you can work over the internet and still make your home currency then living here won't make much sense.
I've seen many, many, many people pack up their bags and go back to the USA, Europe, Asia. They found that although it was relatively cheap to live here, it was also almost impossible to make a lot of money here. It does you no good even if it's cheap here if you are only spending money and not making money to replenish it.
Honestly, the only ones that I know that are still living here are people that are retired and getting a pension, people that work only over the internet or people that are working for a foreign company and are temporarily based here. ALL others that I met had to move back. You have to remember reality here. Unemployment is almost 20% here. There are highly educated, bilingual people here that were educated in the USA. They aren't making a lot of money here so why would a company pay you more? Also, no matter what situation you had in your home country, it's not the same here. I remember two gorgeous girls from Sweden that moved here. They quit their executive jobs and thought they could find a job here. They spoke no Spanish. They thought at least they could find a job working in a bar. Little did they know that most of those type of jobs pay only a few hundred pesos per month. Really think things out before you decide to move here unless it's just a mini-getaway from work. I can't emphasize this enough.
My best advice is to have a solid game plan (business plan) before even thinking about moving down here. I thought mine out 2 years before moving down here. Pitch your idea to friends, family, consultants, co-workers. Make sure that you can make money here. I do a lot of consulting with foreigners that want to start a company here. 9 times out of 10 I have to tell them it would never work here.
Also, remember that nothing is the same here. I'll give you just one example. I have dozens. I recently met a woman that seemed bright. She claimed to have an MBA degree and was an investment banker on Wall Street. She left all that behind to try a business here. She was telling me her business plan and as soon as I hear it I cringed. She wasn't a paying consulting client so I kept my mouth shut but I felt like telling her odds are it won't work. I could be wrong but opening an all women gym in Latin America isn't the brightest thing to do.
She made several mistakes. She chose the downtown BA district and I asked her why? She said for all the professional business women and executives. Well, sorry to say but there aren't so many business execs that are women. The next mistake that she made was she was renting the space for her gym. She had to do all kinds of costly renovations. I asked her if she secured any long-term lease. Nope. Only 2 years. This is just not smart. After 2 years the owner will definitely increase the rent and she will be stuck paying whatever he asks for. Never spend a lot of money in renovations if you're only going to lease for 2 years. Big mistake.
The best advice I can give to people coming here is practice common sense. Don't lose that common sense just because you are living in South America. You may feel more adventurous because you are here. But always ask yourself, "would I do this in the UK or the USA?" Really think things through. This woman kept saying to me how this company was the fasting growing gym in the USA and UK. I felt like saying, we aren't in the USA or UK. I hate to see it but I see it failing here. I heard there was another American that started the same chain in Las Canitas and last I hear it wasn't doing so good. Latin America isn't the best type of place for this as any locals can tell you.
The only sure thing about Argentina is that there is no sure thing here. It's always changing. There is no "easy money". I'm working at least double the hours I worked in the USA for not nearly the same amount of money. Still, I love it here and I think you will too. Good luck.
Post Number: 45
|Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 3:29 pm: |
Like Saint's, my estimates were in USD too. For Iguazu, you can just come by my mother's office anytime you want at Florida 460 - suite 406 (ph:4322-8147). Erna speaks good english (american). But I encourage you to shop around. I am not using this forum to promote us or anyone.
A roundtrip ticket Bue - London - Bue with British Airlines is currently at USD $1,295 taxes included. We are presently not selling it, though. A one way will be very expensive as the classes offered are not the economical ones.
Saint has offered you a good all-around perspective. Succintly, my sister -who lives in Buenos Aires- works for a large SP500 firm as the regional manager for all latin america. She gets paid in pesos within the present parameters of argentine professionals. When I go visit with my greenback income I am the king of the hill... In other words, when negotiating monies keep your London income and Buenos Aires will just be splendid.
Post Number: 1
|Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 4:20 pm: |
You're point about your sister is spot on. I think most people would be quite surprised just how little executives here make. One of my friends is a CFO for an international company here that is actually an American company. She has worked for the company 15 years. She speaks fluent English and she studied in the USA. Of course she speaks fluent Spanish because she is a from Argentina. Her salary in pesos is only 100,000 PESOS per year. (u$s 34,750). That is less than most teachers make in the USA. If they aren't going to pay someone a huge salary here that is highly educated and highly skilled, why would they pay you as an American?
Still, that is a good salary for Argentina. She was making u$s 100,000 before the crash. Most people here can get by spending very little. Most people don't spend money like expats do. The locals can get by very well with not a lot of money. Consider that many are living in apartments/houses that are all paid off. In the USA, they say home ownership is high but keep in mind that everyone is just living on borrowed money and loans. Here most people I know, own their homes and apartments outright. Most don't have cars or credit card bills. Their only expense is utilities which are low, food and travel expenses. The system in the USA is like one big house of cards waiting to fall down. If interest rates went up just 1% probably many people wouldn't be able to afford their mortgage payments. Sad but true.
The simple fact remains that companies here simply don't need to pay huge salaries like the USA and UK and other European countries. Most of the highly educated people I know moved to the USA, Canada or Europe to make more money. Still, some of them are moving back because the lifestyle is much higher in Buenos Aires. Consider that my personal physician went to UCLA Medical School and practiced in California for many years. He is a Porteno. He moved back to Argentina even though he makes a lot less he, like many people I know, find living here much more relaxed with a higher quality of life. I pay about 100 pesos for a doctor's visit. That is about what I was paying for just my co-pay in the USA.
Again, if you are making u$s or other forms of currency and spending pesos, living in Argentina can be a dream. Still, like Roberto has pointed out many times. The environment here is constantly changing so make sure you have alternate plans or you are planning for the future. Too many people come here with only dreams but no business plan or finances to back up their dream.
Good luck all.
Post Number: 12
|Posted on Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 7:37 pm: |
Hey Michael, I can take you to a place were you can have a great "choripán" ("sausage sandwich") for .25 Euros!! Mind you, the hospital bill will probably run up to 2000 quid!!.
If you have young kids, you might want to bargain the education issue. A top level bilingual school here like St Andrews, St. Georges, etc. is probably in the U$S300/350 neighbourhood.
Also get ready for the car buying issue. A Honda Civic must be around U$S 20k. Not sure, but can find out.
There is also an acting group in San Isidro.
Suburban Players. Always keen to get "new proper English speaking blood"
Post Number: 5
|Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 5:11 am: |
Yes we would be very interested in Schools. In the UK the Schools are ranked according to academic achievements. This can help with the selection process. Which School has the best reputation?
I have had a look at a few of the websites of the Schools and hope to visit whilst over there.
The rates you quote seem very reasonable? Is that per term? or per academic year?
Also what is a typical school day, start and finish?
Post Number: 13
|Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 9:18 am: |
Bilingual schools (meaning they even have a Cambridge "A" level tuition curricula)are quite expensive. Some even have British teachers.
You should try St. Andrews, St. Georges, St. Johns, Lincoln (American curricula) St. Albans, Belgrano Day School. It just depends where you will be living (downtown or suburban)- You should be registering your kids before September/Oct.
The school calendar here is March-Jul (2 week holiday break) and then upto mid-Dec. Summer holidays here last 3 months (Dec-Feb) The American schools (Lincoln)follow the US school calendar.
Post Number: 55
|Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 9:30 am: |
I am hoping Anton can provide you with updated information... My data is very old, unfortunately. Still, my personal, first-hand experience is that education has been traditionally a high mark, at least in Buenos Aires. I went to Washington School while a kid -an american based school- where I had to spend all day from 8 am through 4 pm. In the mornings, we were taught spanish classes (math, history, etc) and in the afternoon it was all english. I am positive they still have the same high reputation as in the old days. Many of my friends went to Lincoln School also in the 'Belgrano' neighborhood which seems to have had a similar high reputation.
I also have first-hand experience from my highschool years with the Nacional Buenos Aires. This was/is without a doubt one of the most reputable middle institutions in all Argentina, perhaps even latin america. At the time I was a student there were no such a thing as 'C' marks. The minimum approval mark had to be a 'B+'. Only University professors were allowed to become part of the teaching staff. As far as primary schools I also hear St. Brendans and French School are worth exploring.
Post Number: 6
|Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 10:57 am: |
Thank you, do these Schools get inspected in any way and are their published reports available for teaching methods/standards/performace league tables etc. My son will need to study A level curriculum for University entrance as well as immerse himself fully in Spanish.
We have Government inspections on all UK Schools that are incredibly detailed and really useful when selecting schools.
Thanks so much
Post Number: 57
|Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 11:15 am: |
This I am not sure, Aquilalondon. Maybe we get lucky and someone with the proper knowledge drops by in our forum. The federal gov as well as local authorities have many programs running all the time but I would not know specifics such as 'inspections'. Here is a page with emails to all governmental educational institutions that you can consult. It is in spanish but I believe these are the guys you want to contact: educational addresses.
Even if there were periodical examinations to assess the state of the education in Buenos Aires -which I am sure they are happening at some level- you cannot expect uniform compliance across the board. This is not us, only the US has that power of enforcement. I would also not know if there are publications that offer public reports or parental information regarding education for children in Argentina, like schools comparisons. Everything down there is word of mouth. I am presently contacting some friends and family. If I hear of anything I will post it here. For now, your best bet will be to email some of the people on the above page...
Post Number: 14
|Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 5:38 pm: |
Aquila, get ready for a culture shock.
Nope, there aren't any serious school surveys.
There a very few serious surveys here at all. You will have to rely mainly on word of mouth. As this is a Latin country get ready for a lot of words!!. The Lincoln school I mentioned is the one in Olivos I think (Northern Suburbia)
About getting an A level, then he'd have to just follow the UK curricula. Very hard to follow both programmes.
Post Number: 15
|Posted on Friday, July 22, 2005 - 5:47 pm: |
Aquila, herebelow the St. Andrews website. Guess you wouldnt find it being in Spanish!!
|Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 1:32 pm: |
I moved here to ba about 4 weeks ago and want to find a job in graphic design and printing, and to meet other english speaking people over here, have you got any tips for me?
|Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 9:14 pm: |
Tallimac, no, I would not know how to find leads for graphic designers/printing jobs for foreigners. You should look into 'Buenos Aires Herald' classifieds. This is the english speaking newspaper here. I would also try to get in touch with the different institutions that teach english, such as 'Cultural Inglesa' or 'William Blake Institute'. They will definitely have information on where people from the US/UK gather.
Post Number: 21
|Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 5:08 pm: |
Try signing up for a free membership at www.yesba.org. Many foreigners (Americans) are members. They have many regular gatherings. I never meet up as I have no interest in meeting with other Americans. I much prefer the locals.
Also try: http://www.baexpats.com/ There is also another group called Buenos Aires International Newcomers (BAIN). I never go to any of these meetings but they've asked me to be a guest speaker at meetings on real estate and I have. You can email Jennifer at email@example.com for information on meetings.
(Message edited by admin on August 23, 2005)
Post Number: 7
|Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 8:04 pm: |
Thank you for the info for expats website. LOL I was not approved by the moderator to join the Buenos Aires International Newcomers Yahoo Group.
How very rude!!!
Actually "When in Rome".... ,
|Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 12:32 am: |
Hello all, not sure if this is the right place to post but anyway... I'm looking to move over to Buenos Aires sometime in the next year maybe. I've got like one month left of my degree back in the UK then I'm free to do whatever. I'm primarily going over so I can be with a girl,the problem is I can't speak any spanish though I intend to try and learn, does any know if there are jobs in the city that don't require the native language other than english teaching jobs obviously. Any help appreciated
Post Number: 402
|Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 1:02 am: |
You could try embassies and consulates, in particular those that do require english (uk, us, canada, australia, etc). You could also try the newspaper "Buenos Aires Herald". If you search google you'll find their contact info. I will think on a few more and post them here.
Post Number: 1
|Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 1:58 pm: |
I and my two children left England 5 years ago to live in the Dominican Republic and for various reasons now we would like to move to another country. We hope to visit BA later this year to see if this could be the place we would like to live in the near future. My daughter will return to England so, I will have my son who is 13 and speaks fluent Spanish move with me.
We adapt and make friends very easily and look at this move as a wonderful experience.
I have been searching for info. on Argentina and welcome any advice on what we should expect with living there.
Thanks in advance... Sylvia
Post Number: 464
|Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:29 am: |
British people tend to feel comfortable here, perhaps more so than americans. Historically, there are greater ties as well as greater disagreements. My experience may not be useful to you but one thing I would recommend is to always have present that things can change on a dime...
Post Number: 1
|Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 12:34 am: |
Thank you for the wonderful site!!
I have an apartment in Villa Crespo, it is quite ordinary but it has a good aspect and it has a plesant feel. Could it be rented to the tourist market if renovated and furnished? I want to buy a better quality apartment for myself to retire. Will it be better to sell Villa Crespo?
Post Number: 506
|Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 1:32 am: |
Some other members may know more about Buenos Aires real estate trends, like ruggero or Mike (apartmensba). Villa Crespo, being right next to Palermo Hollywood/Soho might see some action in the future, since prices in those 2 neighborhoods has been rising fast. Mike is of the opinion that PH will explode and this could extend to Villa Crespo, but I may be completely off mark... plus it is just an assumption.
For the record, I heard on the radio that official stats have shown the largest influx of tourists coming to Argentina at about half/mill last month. The largest number ever...
Post Number: 96
|Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 3:34 pm: |
Villa Crespo I believe will take much longer to develop. As I mentioned, Palermo Soho/Viejo is a good growing area. Many highrises are going up in Hollywood. I prefer Soho as it's more developed already with many shops, restaurants and more newer constructions. Look at Soho just a few years ago and it was totally different and undeveloped. It quickly transformed in just a few years. The foreign investment in that area is a big part of the reason that area is changing (via foreigners purchasing in that area and also tourism).
I was just out in Villa Crespo earlier this week looking at an amazing loft apartment for sale in Darwin Lofts which is an old beautiful former factory. I think it will take some time to catch on. You will see more growth in Palermo Viejo and it will branch out but I think it will take several years.
The best thing to do is market your property for sale and market it as "Only blocks to Palermo Hollywood". Good luck.
Post Number: 3
|Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 8:05 pm: |
Thanks for your reply re apartments in Villa Crespo
Post Number: 1
|Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 5:30 pm: |
Does anyone know of any websites that detail the business tax structure for Argentine companies?
Also, I've read that foreigners are treated as nationals when starting a company.......Is this true?
Thanks for your help,
Post Number: 724
|Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 - 6:38 pm: |
Not exactly information but a lead:
They may be of help...
And here are some informational links: