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Cheryl
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Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am wanting to go to BA at the end of July for 6 months. Can anyone give me any information about flats/apartments to share or to stay at alone if necessary. Any help on which suburbs are economical and fairly central but also safe and clean. Thanks
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Roberto
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 1:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Cheryl and welcome.

In my view, the best place for a foreigner staying for an extended period of time is Palermo / Barrio Norte. You should be able to find a good deal, just for yourself. Barrio Norte and Palermo are residential neighborhoods that at the same time have strong commercial activity, thus, wherever you live you will be close to everything. Groceries, shopping, entertainment, cultural activities, pubs, restaurants and a good amount of nightlife. In addition, these neighborhoods tend to be safe. Public transportation is abundant. There are both subways and public buses. You will be very happy anywhere here.

Alternatives to this could be Palermo viejo, Palermo hollywood, Retiro and La Recoleta. Perhaps some areas in Belgrano and even in recently developed neighborhoods such as Las Canitas. But all these latter options will probably be a bit more expensive. Some, like a few areas in Belgrano, may be further away from where the activity is. But on the other hand, these places may be quieter.

In general, most places within city limits are safe. I would have some reservations to try to find a place in the outskirts of Buenos Aires. Even sophisticated neighborhoods north of the city, such as La Lucila, Martinez or San Isidro -wonderful, laid-back places to live- may pose some risk since they may still lack the necessary police force to make their streets safe. Many foreigners, specially those from the US, have chosen these suburbs because they resemble more the american way of life (not living in the City). But many of them have also been transfered down there by their firms and have their residence paid and also have their own transportation. When living in the suburbs this is needed. My personal opinion is to discourage this option.

I don't know right off the bat any deals. Perhaps someone else may jump in and offer you alternatives. You can also check with Taylor here http://expat-argentina.blogspot.com/. He is planning to move to Buenos Aires soon and has spent enough time down there that he probably has some good advice.

If nothing else comes to fruition, email me and I will call some of my friends who are in the real estate business and I will try to find you some good alternatives for a temporary stay.
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larry Rogers
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 2:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Anyone, probably Roberto!
Tell me about the city of Greater Buenos Aires area of San Isidro. I know it is atleast an hour away (correct) and is home to one of Argentina's high and middle classes.

Is it a place for young adults 28-35?
Are apartments easy to rent and if so, do you think that there is availablity there?
Are rents comparable to Buenos Aires Palermo or Recoleta?

Thanks
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Roberto
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Post Number: 830
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Larry, the real estate people in this forum will know more. In fact, I think Laura settled down somewhere close.

Is it a place for young adults 28-35?
For sure. No doubts. Some people here tend to think of the city as a different place altogether, like another country.

Are apartments easy to rent and if so, do you think that there is availablity there?
Until recently, nearby neighborhoods and some parts of San Isidro were easy to buy/rent because of higher security problems. I don't know now. A friend of mine got a nice deal in a 4 bedroom apt. close to SI.

Are rents comparable to Buenos Aires Palermo or Recoleta?
Dunno. SI has distinct areas within itself. Closer to the 'Rio de la Plata' I'd say more expensive and unavailable (houses tend to be large). To the west, close to the railroad tracks/station then comparable or cheaper. I think this question requires an specialist in this area.
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Ray Thompson
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Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Roberto,

I'm arriving into BA January 4th and staying at the LOI Suites in the Recoleta area. While doing my research I wish I could have stayed in the Palermo area but I made my reservations already so that's water under the bridge now. Can you tell me anything about this hotel and the area. Will I be close to restaurants, stores, etc. When I do visit Palermo how long is the taxi ride?
Ray Thompson
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Roberto
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Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ray, you should worry not.

You will be right where the action is, at least the Recoleta action. One block from many traditional and famous restaurants. Just blocks away from pubs and many nice, upscale coffee places. Only minutes away from anywhere in Palermo. Close to parks, quiet walking areas and theaters. And if you prefer 'noise' only a few blocks away you can be surrounded by young crowds.

Take a nice, relaxed walk to Patio Bullrich shopping center about 6 or 7 blocks away or 10 minutes drive to Alto Palermo or a 15 minutes drive to Abasto shopping center or Carrefour in Salguero 3212.

In that area, I personally prefer the Etoile, but I think you will be happy. Can't your travel agent change your reservations if you are not happy?
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YT Lee
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 12:39 am:   Edit PostPrint Post


Hello,

I'm planning to visit Buenos Aires from April 8-17 and intend to rent an apartment in Pacheco de Melo / Uriburu. Unfortunately, the apartment I enquire have been rented out so quickly. Not sure if you'd give me any advice where to stay. Thanks.
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EMILY CHAMBERLAIN
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 1:50 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

YT LEE,
YOU MAY WANT TO EMAIL MY FRIEND IN BA, A MOTHER OF TWINS AND REAL ESTATE LADY WHO MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU.
HER NAME IS REINA

INFOR@BARISCONECTION.COM.AR
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ruggero
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 6:24 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello YT Lee:
We have a couple of apartments available for those dates and I think I can help you, please check out on my website http://www.barts.com.ar
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YT Lee
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


Thank you.
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YT Lee
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Roberto,

Hope you don't mind to let me have your advice. Having read thru the messages in the website, I understand the Recoleta / Palermo / Barrio Norte are nice areas to stay. As someone told me although Palermo is nice, it'd be better for first timer to stay in Recoleta. So how shouold I choose between these areas?

Thanks.}}
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Stephen D Ruud
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi, I used 4rentargentina.com and found a great 2 bedroom in Recoleta. There are many other apartment sites, just use Google.

I recommend getting a map of Buenos Aires and choosing an apartment close to Avenida Santa Fe, one of the main streets in Buenos Aires. The subway, Subte D, runs under Avenida Santa Fe. The subway gets you around cheaply and fast. Barrio Norte, Palermo, and Recoleta all have places close to Avenida Santa Fe. In Palermo, however, some of the apartments are too far from Avenida Santa Fe.

But, taxis are plentiful and cheap in Buenos Aire, so even if you're not close to the subway, it won't cost that much more to have a place far from the subway. If you are staying for an extended period of time, then I strongly recommend looking at a map and choosing an apartment in close proximity to Avenida Santa Fe.
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Max Kirsch
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I think will you will find that living just about anywhere in Buenos Aires now is safe, convenient and pleasant. Rocoleta is the most expensive of the areas to live. I live in San Telmo, and have found it pleasant, nice and without worry. It is one of the older areas. There is no reason to pay the top price found on those sites. They are strictly for rich tourists and/or companies sending their employees down. One of the things that does remain cheap for the moment are taxis, and almost any area in the central area of Buenos Aires (which stretches from San Telmo to Belgrano) is convenient to subways. San Telmo/Puerto Maderno (although the latter is very expensive) through Palermo is probably the most convenient (Belgrano is a little farther) but all are fine. Don't get caught up in worry about not having lived here before. Buenos Aires is a convenient, major world city. So ask around, particularly on this site, when you think you have found something. I see from prior postings that there are those around who might want to find someone unfamiliar with the city. Like any major city, there are those who would take advantage....
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Roberto
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Post Number: 1059
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 9:28 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

YT, there is good advice above.

Aside from areas like Belgrano which -like Max said- are a bit far (but have their own commercial centers filled with great restaurants and such), you don't have to worry much. Palermo/barrio norte covers an extended area and is a good place for a first time visit. Should also be more affordable than staying at La Recoleta and equally nice and safe. Staying close to Avenida Santa Fe or Las Heras is good advice as you will be at walking distance from subways and buses. But even this is not needed as taxis are cheap and available.

I really don't see why someone has to stay in Recoleta in its first trip. I would consider this only if money is not a limitation and preferences are to be close to quiet areas (Plaza Francia) and some high end restaurants/shops. Ruggero's apartments are in a nice area too, with younger crowds. San Telmo can offer cheaper stay but is probably better for someone who is already familiar with Buenos Aires and can make the most of it.
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Tom
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Post Number: 366
Registered: 6-2006


Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Max
There are sections of Buenos Aries just like every other city of similiar size that are not safe to live in.
Safety is dear to everyone.
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Rohan Kulkarni
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 4-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:12 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi,

I will be staying in Buenos Aires for the first time from June - August. (about 9 weeks).

I've found this board very helpful in gathering some research on where to stay, and I was wondering if someone could answer some further questions I have on locations.

I'd like to find a place that is close to public transportation, near the heart of the city and close to activity, and a good place for young adults (25-35). Safety is very important to me though (I've heard that I shouldn't live in downtown or San Telmo).

From other posts here I understand that Barrio Norte and Palermo and Recoleta are highly recommended. I'll be working in Barrio Aldo Bonzi, which I believe is southwest of the city. So would those locations listed be too far logistically to commute from everyday? I'm not planning on having a car.

How is the Congreso neighborhood? I am looking at the website http://www.rentapartmentbuenosaires.com/, and found an apartment on Corrientes and Riobamba. Is this a good area (again in terms of safety, access to transportation, activity, etc.)?

Being that I am unfamiliar with the city (only information I have is based on maps and guidebooks), I much appreciate any advice.

Thanks,
Rohan
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florencia
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:31 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

rohan,

also check this website: http://www.barts.com.ar
you have more options.

all the best
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Miguel cervantes
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:42 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Cheryl
for accommodation options you can check this web site. They offer accommodation options in Buenos Aires
http://www.spanish-schools.com.ar/accommodation_bu enosaires.asp
Enjoy your trip in Argentina
Regards,
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Miguel cervantes
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Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:45 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am sorry, the correct address is
http://www.spanish-schools.com.ar/accommodation_bu enosaires.asp
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Roberto
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Post Number: 1073
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Rohan... Welcome!

Yes, Aldo Bonzi is a smaller location within "La Matanza" and it is southwest of the city. A little far away from where you have been looking to stay. Buenos Aires has a very good bus transportation system. It is private and covers just about every corner of the city. I would not worry about how to get to Aldo Bonzi and spend all effort in trying to locate a good place to live. I would focus in Palermo.

The place you spotted in Riobamba and Corrientes is a good one. Corrientes Ave. has plenty of theaters and movie theaters as well as cheaper style restaurants (and excellent ones). Very crowded at nights. People frequenting the area are somewhat more artistically oriented than those who may hang out in other areas of the city. Corrientes has some famous cafes like "La Paz" a few blocks from where this apartment is located. Cafe La Paz used to gather many "intelectuals" during my time and it was a favorite for writers and musicians as well as many "alternative" types. At first sight, it just looks like any other bar but its habitual customers is what distinguishes it. You will also be very close to another center of action at Callao and Santa Fe so all in all is not a bad place.

Once in BA, check the "guia Filcar" which will tell exactly what combinations of transportation (could subway/bus) you need to take to get to Aldo Bonzi.
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YT Lee
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 5:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hey Roberto & others,

Having spent almost two weeks in BsAs, had arrived home just now. Thanks all for the information which I found is so informative.

Eventually, I stayed with my friend in the Recoleta area, pretty close to Cesar Park Hotel. Very nice neighbourhood indeed and will be staying in that area again on my visit next year.

Speaking about safety, relatively it is quite safe to stroll around town in day time. Since I travelled most of the time by myself, I only grab dinner in the areas nearby my friend's place beyond 10pm. If I need to go to a milonga in the mid-night, I just get in a taxi...it's okay though.

Roberto, by the way, do you know if there are any good online Spanish course I can take? Thanks again for your help and I really want to learn Latin American Spanish before my next trip.

YT
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Geoff Pearson
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 6:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Try looking here:

http://www.spanish-lessons-reviewed.com/

My wife & I have been using Rocket Spanish:

http://www.rocketlanguages.com/spanish/premium/ind ex.php?hop=11293653

It is very good & very reasonably priced.

There is also a book published by Sociedad General Espanola De Libreria S.A. & called Espanol 2000. You will find it on Amazon with the ISBN number 84-7143-446-6

Our Argentinian profesora in BA used this book as a resource. I don't have it yet but was very impressed with it & plan to buy it shortly so... if you do buy it off Amazon, leave one for me!

HTH

Geoff Pearson
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Roberto
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Post Number: 1077
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

YT Lee, glad to hear about your positive experience... Other than Geoff's advice you can look at some of the sites listed in the directory http://www.travelsur.net/directory/Argentina_Resources/Learn_Spanish_in_Argentina.html. Some of the site's owners contacted me in many occasions so I believe they are legit.

(Message edited by admin on April 20, 2007)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 10:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

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