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Cheryl
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Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am wanting to go to BA at the end of July for 6 months. Can anyone give me any information about flats/apartments to share or to stay at alone if necessary. Any help on which suburbs are economical and fairly central but also safe and clean. Thanks
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Roberto
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 1:24 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello Cheryl and welcome.

In my view, the best place for a foreigner staying for an extended period of time is Palermo / Barrio Norte. You should be able to find a good deal, just for yourself. Barrio Norte and Palermo are residential neighborhoods that at the same time have strong commercial activity, thus, wherever you live you will be close to everything. Groceries, shopping, entertainment, cultural activities, pubs, restaurants and a good amount of nightlife. In addition, these neighborhoods tend to be safe. Public transportation is abundant. There are both subways and public buses. You will be very happy anywhere here.

Alternatives to this could be Palermo viejo, Palermo hollywood, Retiro and La Recoleta. Perhaps some areas in Belgrano and even in recently developed neighborhoods such as Las Canitas. But all these latter options will probably be a bit more expensive. Some, like a few areas in Belgrano, may be further away from where the activity is. But on the other hand, these places may be quieter.

In general, most places within city limits are safe. I would have some reservations to try to find a place in the outskirts of Buenos Aires. Even sophisticated neighborhoods north of the city, such as La Lucila, Martinez or San Isidro -wonderful, laid-back places to live- may pose some risk since they may still lack the necessary police force to make their streets safe. Many foreigners, specially those from the US, have chosen these suburbs because they resemble more the american way of life (not living in the City). But many of them have also been transfered down there by their firms and have their residence paid and also have their own transportation. When living in the suburbs this is needed. My personal opinion is to discourage this option.

I don't know right off the bat any deals. Perhaps someone else may jump in and offer you alternatives. You can also check with Taylor here http://expat-argentina.blogspot.com/. He is planning to move to Buenos Aires soon and has spent enough time down there that he probably has some good advice.

If nothing else comes to fruition, email me and I will call some of my friends who are in the real estate business and I will try to find you some good alternatives for a temporary stay.
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larry Rogers
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Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 2:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Anyone, probably Roberto!
Tell me about the city of Greater Buenos Aires area of San Isidro. I know it is atleast an hour away (correct) and is home to one of Argentina's high and middle classes.

Is it a place for young adults 28-35?
Are apartments easy to rent and if so, do you think that there is availablity there?
Are rents comparable to Buenos Aires Palermo or Recoleta?

Thanks
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Roberto
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Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Larry, the real estate people in this forum will know more. In fact, I think Laura settled down somewhere close.

Is it a place for young adults 28-35?
For sure. No doubts. Some people here tend to think of the city as a different place altogether, like another country.

Are apartments easy to rent and if so, do you think that there is availablity there?
Until recently, nearby neighborhoods and some parts of San Isidro were easy to buy/rent because of higher security problems. I don't know now. A friend of mine got a nice deal in a 4 bedroom apt. close to SI.

Are rents comparable to Buenos Aires Palermo or Recoleta?
Dunno. SI has distinct areas within itself. Closer to the 'Rio de la Plata' I'd say more expensive and unavailable (houses tend to be large). To the west, close to the railroad tracks/station then comparable or cheaper. I think this question requires an specialist in this area.
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Ray Thompson
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Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Roberto,

I'm arriving into BA January 4th and staying at the LOI Suites in the Recoleta area. While doing my research I wish I could have stayed in the Palermo area but I made my reservations already so that's water under the bridge now. Can you tell me anything about this hotel and the area. Will I be close to restaurants, stores, etc. When I do visit Palermo how long is the taxi ride?
Ray Thompson
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Roberto
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Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ray, you should worry not.

You will be right where the action is, at least the Recoleta action. One block from many traditional and famous restaurants. Just blocks away from pubs and many nice, upscale coffee places. Only minutes away from anywhere in Palermo. Close to parks, quiet walking areas and theaters. And if you prefer 'noise' only a few blocks away you can be surrounded by young crowds.

Take a nice, relaxed walk to Patio Bullrich shopping center about 6 or 7 blocks away or 10 minutes drive to Alto Palermo or a 15 minutes drive to Abasto shopping center or Carrefour in Salguero 3212.

In that area, I personally prefer the Etoile, but I think you will be happy. Can't your travel agent change your reservations if you are not happy?
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YT Lee
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 12:39 am:   Edit PostPrint Post


Hello,

I'm planning to visit Buenos Aires from April 8-17 and intend to rent an apartment in Pacheco de Melo / Uriburu. Unfortunately, the apartment I enquire have been rented out so quickly. Not sure if you'd give me any advice where to stay. Thanks.
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EMILY CHAMBERLAIN
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 1:50 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

YT LEE,
YOU MAY WANT TO EMAIL MY FRIEND IN BA, A MOTHER OF TWINS AND REAL ESTATE LADY WHO MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU.
HER NAME IS REINA

INFOR@BARISCONECTION.COM.AR
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ruggero
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 6:24 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hello YT Lee:
We have a couple of apartments available for those dates and I think I can help you, please check out on my website http://www.barts.com.ar
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YT Lee
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post


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YT Lee
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi Roberto,

Hope you don't mind to let me have your advice. Having read thru the messages in the website, I understand the Recoleta / Palermo / Barrio Norte are nice areas to stay. As someone told me although Palermo is nice, it'd be better for first timer to stay in Recoleta. So how shouold I choose between these areas?

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Stephen D Ruud
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi, I used 4rentargentina.com and found a great 2 bedroom in Recoleta. There are many other apartment sites, just use Google.

I recommend getting a map of Buenos Aires and choosing an apartment close to Avenida Santa Fe, one of the main streets in Buenos Aires. The subway, Subte D, runs under Avenida Santa Fe. The subway gets you around cheaply and fast. Barrio Norte, Palermo, and Recoleta all have places close to Avenida Santa Fe. In Palermo, however, some of the apartments are too far from Avenida Santa Fe.

But, taxis are plentiful and cheap in Buenos Aire, so even if you're not close to the subway, it won't cost that much more to have a place far from the subway. If you are staying for an extended period of time, then I strongly recommend looking at a map and choosing an apartment in close proximity to Avenida Santa Fe.
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Max Kirsch
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I think will you will find that living just about anywhere in Buenos Aires now is safe, convenient and pleasant. Rocoleta is the most expensive of the areas to live. I live in San Telmo, and have found it pleasant, nice and without worry. It is one of the older areas. There is no reason to pay the top price found on those sites. They are strictly for rich tourists and/or companies sending their employees down. One of the things that does remain cheap for the moment are taxis, and almost any area in the central area of Buenos Aires (which stretches from San Telmo to Belgrano) is convenient to subways. San Telmo/Puerto Maderno (although the latter is very expensive) through Palermo is probably the most convenient (Belgrano is a little farther) but all are fine. Don't get caught up in worry about not having lived here before. Buenos Aires is a convenient, major world city. So ask around, particularly on this site, when you think you have found something. I see from prior postings that there are those around who might want to find someone unfamiliar with the city. Like any major city, there are those who would take advantage....
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Roberto
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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 9:28 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

YT, there is good advice above.

Aside from areas like Belgrano which -like Max said- are a bit far (but have their own commercial centers filled with great restaurants and such), you don't have to worry much. Palermo/barrio norte covers an extended area and is a good place for a first time visit. Should also be more affordable than staying at La Recoleta and equally nice and safe. Staying close to Avenida Santa Fe or Las Heras is good advice as you will be at walking distance from subways and buses. But even this is not needed as taxis are cheap and available.

I really don't see why someone has to stay in Recoleta in its first trip. I would consider this only if money is not a limitation and preferences are to be close to quiet areas (Plaza Francia) and some high end restaurants/shops. Ruggero's apartments are in a nice area too, with younger crowds. San Telmo can offer cheaper stay but is probably better for someone who is already familiar with Buenos Aires and can make the most of it.
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Tom
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Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Max
There are sections of Buenos Aries just like every other city of similiar size that are not safe to live in.
Safety is dear to everyone.
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Rohan Kulkarni
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Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:12 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hi,

I will be staying in Buenos Aires for the first time from June - August. (about 9 weeks).

I've found this board very helpful in gathering some research on where to stay, and I was wondering if someone could answer some further questions I have on locations.

I'd like to find a place that is close to public transportation, near the heart of the city and close to activity, and a good place for young adults (25-35). Safety is very important to me though (I've heard that I shouldn't live in downtown or San Telmo).

From other posts here I understand that Barrio Norte and Palermo and Recoleta are highly recommended. I'll be working in Barrio Aldo Bonzi, which I believe is southwest of the city. So would those locations listed be too far logistically to commute from everyday? I'm not planning on having a car.

How is the Congreso neighborhood? I am looking at the website http://www.rentapartmentbuenosaires.com/, and found an apartment on Corrientes and Riobamba. Is this a good area (again in terms of safety, access to transportation, activity, etc.)?

Being that I am unfamiliar with the city (only information I have is based on maps and guidebooks), I much appreciate any advice.

Thanks,
Rohan
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florencia
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Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:31 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

rohan,

also check this website: http://www.barts.com.ar
you have more options.

all the best
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Miguel cervantes
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Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:42 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Dear Cheryl
for accommodation options you can check this web site. They offer accommodation options in Buenos Aires
http://www.spanish-schools.com.ar/accommodation_buenosaires.asp
Enjoy your trip in Argentina
Regards,

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Miguel cervantes
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Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:45 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am sorry, the correct address is
http://www.spanish-schools.com.ar/accommodation_buenosaires.asp

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Roberto
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Post Number: 1073
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Rohan... Welcome!

Yes, Aldo Bonzi is a smaller location within "La Matanza" and it is southwest of the city. A little far away from where you have been looking to stay. Buenos Aires has a very good bus transportation system. It is private and covers just about every corner of the city. I would not worry about how to get to Aldo Bonzi and spend all effort in trying to locate a good place to live. I would focus in Palermo.

The place you spotted in Riobamba and Corrientes is a good one. Corrientes Ave. has plenty of theaters and movie theaters as well as cheaper style restaurants (and excellent ones). Very crowded at nights. People frequenting the area are somewhat more artistically oriented than those who may hang out in other areas of the city. Corrientes has some famous cafes like "La Paz" a few blocks from where this apartment is located. Cafe La Paz used to gather many "intelectuals" during my time and it was a favorite for writers and musicians as well as many "alternative" types. At first sight, it just looks like any other bar but its habitual customers is what distinguishes it. You will also be very close to another center of action at Callao and Santa Fe so all in all is not a bad place.

Once in BA, check the "guia Filcar" which will tell exactly what combinations of transportation (could subway/bus) you need to take to get to Aldo Bonzi.
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YT Lee
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 5:07 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hey Roberto & others,

Having spent almost two weeks in BsAs, had arrived home just now. Thanks all for the information which I found is so informative.

Eventually, I stayed with my friend in the Recoleta area, pretty close to Cesar Park Hotel. Very nice neighbourhood indeed and will be staying in that area again on my visit next year.

Speaking about safety, relatively it is quite safe to stroll around town in day time. Since I travelled most of the time by myself, I only grab dinner in the areas nearby my friend's place beyond 10pm. If I need to go to a milonga in the mid-night, I just get in a taxi...it's okay though.

Roberto, by the way, do you know if there are any good online Spanish course I can take? Thanks again for your help and I really want to learn Latin American Spanish before my next trip.

YT
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Geoff Pearson
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 6:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Try looking here:

http://www.spanish-lessons-reviewed.com/

My wife & I have been using Rocket Spanish:

http://www.rocketlanguages.com/spanish/premium/index.php?hop=11293653

It is very good & very reasonably priced.

There is also a book published by Sociedad General Espanola De Libreria S.A. & called Espanol 2000. You will find it on Amazon with the ISBN number 84-7143-446-6

Our Argentinian profesora in BA used this book as a resource. I don't have it yet but was very impressed with it & plan to buy it shortly so... if you do buy it off Amazon, leave one for me!

HTH

Geoff Pearson

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Roberto
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

YT Lee, glad to hear about your positive experience... Other than Geoff's advice you can look at some of the sites listed in the directory http://www.travelsur.net/directory/Argentina_Resources/Learn_Spanish_in_Argentina.html. Some of the site's owners contacted me in many occasions so I believe they are legit.

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Mariano Rodriguez
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 10:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Apartments to let in Buenos Aires: temporary rent flat in the heart of Buenos Aires. Totally furnished flat and the best price in the web. No commission. No middle man. Broad band internet, cable TV, cleaning service included.
You can see more information: http://www.argentinatolet.com/
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Andrew McCance
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 8:26 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

See http://www.buenosairesstay.com British run and owned. Established in 2005 - 600 online apartments! World class service in Buenos Aires!!

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ivan G
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 8:38 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yes...but you can also check: www.bytargentina.com/ - www.buenosaireshabitat.com - www.alojargentina.com - www.4rentargentina.com
I THINK in Argentina there are more Agencies than Apartments :o)
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Alejandro Fretes
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 8:44 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have a questions Robert...
How come you don't mention Puerto Madero as an alternative to places to live in Bs As? Is it because it is too "touristy" and not a real "barrio"?
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Alejandro Fretes
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I've used Sandra's agency in 3 ocassions http://www.rentnbaires.com and was very satisfied with her sevice and places.
I think ivan G is correct, there are way too many agencies!!! : )
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ivan G
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Hola Alejandro. Puerto Madero is nice but 1) It's not Argentina :o) 2) it's OVER PRICED In Puerto Madero you spens 4/5 times more than everywhere else in Buenos Aires (I mean good neighborhoods) Argentina is not a 1st world country yet so.....spend so much money to live in a Place where anyway your rights are not safe 100% I think it's crazy. Too many Agencies sell "LUXURY" Apartments in Puerto Madero (and No Argentinean can efford to pay them) but LUXURY is nothing if the Laws and the Services are not good....so...Living in Argentina can be very nice but....DON'T OVERPAY your stay in Argentina

Greerings
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Andrew McCance
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 9:52 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Find apartments from $100 to $5000 USD each week at http://www.bastay.com Buenos Aires Premier Apartment Rental Agency.

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Alejandro Fretes
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 3:31 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Gracias Ivan G!
I find that PM is perhaps a bit safer than other areas. We normally travel with another family that have two children as we do, well not really children, they range in age from 13 to 20. I was born and raised in Bs As (Caballito), I now live in Canada. I feel comfortable in pretty much any area within CF, but I believe that PM is perhaps a bit better for our kids since they can just go out without us worrying that anything can happen.
Do you have any recommendation for us? We'll need two apartments or a big one with several washrooms : )
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MIchael Calero
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 3:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

What makes Puerto Madero safer is the foot patrol and radio car patroling of the Navy or is it Coast Guard? I saw them all over the place.
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ivan G
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Hola Alejandro. If you feel more confortable in Puerto Madero you have to stay there :o) One year I stayed in Recoleta (French Y Austria) and I rented the place through Byt Argentina (one og the Millions Agencies in Buenos Aires :o) and this year I stayed at Giorgio's House in Caballito which was much better and I booked directelly with them (So no Agency fees) In Puerto Madero there are hundreds places for rent but I used to go there just for a walk ... and I mean....you need just 1 bigger apartment ... at least if you are not 10 people!! eh eh :o) Have a great vacation.... :o)
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Roberto
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I wasn't happy with www.buenosaireshabitat.com

Gorgeous website, fantastic photos, pricey apartments >> bad experience.

Booked (early June) a 2 bedroom apt for u$d 500 in Plaza San Martin (at approx. u$d 1750/1800 monthly). When I got there the place looked really bad. Some pieces of furniture were literally 2x6's nailed and painted. TV cable (only one) was broken. The elevator was so tiny that we had to take turns to go up because our stroller couldn't fit. Unlit hallways and a general distate. The gadgets inside (frames, lamps) were the cheapest $ you could get at an even cheaper flea market. Good thing I lived 30 years around that block and knew the area inside out to realize quickly this was a bad deal. In my view, such apt. shouldn't even be published... at least not at that price. I wasn't expecting to keep my deposit of $500 -in exchange they gave us a 3 days rental, which we didn't use, to think about it or consider other options-. But what was really a downer was the fact that I asked to see other apartments in such time (I was willing to pay even more, in spite of being aware of the very high mark ups) and their response was that "we do not really show them". I gave them the benefit of the doubt thinking that perhaps I hadn't been lucky in my first selection. But then, they wanted me to rent another one just by looking at the pictures on the website? Again? They said, this is how they operate.

How in the world can one safely choose what to rent -on location-? Needless to say, I let it go and never contacted them again. As I learned, they do not even have an office. Probably, just some indepedent group of owners who are on call for their own apartments as well as 3rd party ones. Since owners have to be located first and later asked for permission for showing the apartments, the whole experience becomes too cumbersome for everyone. And these guys really didn't want to go the extra mile... not even a few feet. Speaking of making coin fast. I do not want to badmouth (well, maybe) this particular agency but wanted to express my disapointment here since there are many members running/promoting apartments for rent. Please handle your visitors with greater care! These rentals are at least 3 times more expensive than what a local would pay for normal 1 year leases. I know, I know. Shorter term rentals are more expensive. But...
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Alejandro Fretes
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What does "British owned and British managed" mean?
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Andrew McCance
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Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 6:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Buenos Aires Stay is owned by Mainline Security Ltd a British owned and managed business with an enviable reputation for transparency, integrity and client driven service! We both own and manage property in Buenos Aires.
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Max Kirsch
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Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 12:09 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

These kinds of rip-offs as Roberto reports are getting more common in BA. I too had a similar experience with an apartment in San Telmo, was sent pictures, but the pictures didn't match the apartment-- they were posed. The owners were an American family and the apartment was run by their punk kids who I would have liked to turned over and spanked -- just jerks. Very cheap renovation, cheapest lighting, etc. you could find, inadequate air (all was promised, of course) -- no real kitchen utensils, etc. I learned from that one. Even with pictures. Dealing with them was really a drag. Even the housekeeper (once a week, well, sort of, cleaning) was dishonest. If you absolutely cannot see the apartment first or get someone you know to look at it, only sign for short term agreements (say a week or two) until you can actually see what the apartment is. Losing a good apartment because you don't sign a longer term lease is a better deal than dealing with these con jobs-- and there are just too many of them. The chances of having to deal with one is just too great these days. People are looking for quick bucks, and tourists are the targets.
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MIchael Calero
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Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 12:37 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I rented two apartments from Bytargentina and they were wonderful, I even went to their office which was very professional and extemely flashy filled with many employees. The employees arrived at both apt's when they were suppose to and the transaction went as planned. I would highly recommend them. Once the places were rented though they wash their hands, one deals directly with the owner. I didn't have any problem with neither one.
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Andrew McCance
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Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 8:34 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

We did not like to post to this forum in a commercial manner as it was banned and deemed inappropriate. The management of this forum is impeccable and the quality of the advice to travellers is first-class – we have learnt a lot.

This is a question for the moderators. Can we post information about the services of BA Stay ad Buenos Aires Stay? Our team has started to post such threads after seeing others posting in an overtly commercial manner. We do not like to break the rules and we have stopped postings until such time as we have a view from the moderator.

Secondly, can someone tell me what a Boutique Rental Agency is? How does such an agency differentiate from the many agencies and how does it benefit clients? Just a point of interest!

Terms and Conditions and Complaints about Apartments

Just want to make a point to those renting property in Buenos Aires. Do not rent a property from an agency that does not publish terms and conditions! Make sure that the terms and conditions offer some sort guarantee. Check out the Apartment Rental Terms & Conditions at Buenos Aires Stay: http://www.buenosairesstay.com/bastay/generico.php ?carpeta=ing&fuente=buenos-aires-rental-apartment- terms-conditions.html

Note that we offer guarantees and we will refund you if an apartment is not as advertised.

Do not use agencies that do not promote and actively encourage you to rely on their management of reservations subject to published terms and conditions.
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ivan G
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 5-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 9:26 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I think this forum is becoming the Rabbish of Spammers!...I think that a good Agency doesn't need to make SPAM in all the forums!! I think that this kind of Spam can just be negative for these kind of Agenicies...If an Agency needs to make spam to advertise it's because they are not good enough . When I travel i NEVER use Agencies. I contact directelly the Hotel, Hostel, Bed and Breakfast or Property Owners. With Agencies I spend FEES and I am even NOT sure about what I am going to get!!! Directelly it's CHEAPER and I know what I am going to get. An Agency is not a guarantee...it's just a cost! In Argentina there are HUNDREDS Agency and all of them are "the best"" eh eh....I prefere to contact directelly the place and bypass this "best" agencies...Les cost, direct contact with the owner of the Hotel/Hostel,Guesthouse or Apartments and better guarantee! I travel a lot around the world and I always use to do that. I used only once an Agency in Buenos AIres and I'll never doit any more!

Cheers and please....if you want to advertise I think that ONCE is more than enough!!!
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Alejandro Fretes
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 11:58 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Nicely put ivan G!

Moderators it is time to ban some of these guys!
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Andrew McCance
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 12:58 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ivan G makes some points. However, positively promoting ones company and service on any forum that allows such activity is an absolute must for any business involved in search engine marketing and optimisation. To call all such posting ‘spam’ and suggest that these businesses are 'not good enough' is inflammatory, misguided and simply not true.

In addition, Ivan's own experience is obviously limited, he speaks for himself and does not speak for the 1000s of satisfied customers who use agencies in Buenos Aires.

It is his right to exercise self-determination and direct contact with providers of accommodation services.
Good on you! Although you do seem to have lots of time on your hands!! I only make such a suggestion, not to be rude, as you seem very active on these forums.

As a very busy man, who runs five different businesses, I have a counter opinion.
I need a professional consultancy to find me suitable apartments or houses in the right area and at the right price without me spending many person-hours trawling the internet or paper media.
When going to a foreign country, I may not have access to the right publications; there may be a language barrier; I may need help or have very special requirements and going direct to owners may not be an option.
I want to find an agency that is professional and exacting about their apartments’ photos and descriptions, their services, and standards. I want to know that they have been to the apartments they advertise and I am getting what I request. I want to see terms and conditions that protect me as a consumer.
Generally, none of the above is true if you go direct to a bed & breakfast or property owners in Buenos Aires, in fact quite the reverse. We would have over 1200 properties advertised at www.buenosairesstay.com if we had not dumped over 400 unscrupulous owners since buying BA Stay in 2007. Therefore, 400 poor quality properties and their painful owners must have gone somewhere!!

Please see our link to some guidance notes on renting an apartment in Buenos Aires http://www.buenosairesstay.com/bastay/generico.php ?carpeta=ing&fuente=apartments_buenos_aires_apartm ent_rental_advice.htm
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Roderick
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Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 3:12 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yes be very carefull what company you are dealing with. It also happened to me. I saw the pictures and when I showed up it was nothing like the description and pictures. I refused to stay there and the company would not give me my money back, which was one half the entire amount, at that point I was on my own on the street having to look for a hotel after I just traveled for 22 hour to get there. I have been back to Buenos aires many times since then, and what I recommend to do unless you know the agency or have a good recommendation from some one you know that has used the company, is to get a hotel for a couple of days and go directly to the agency and have someone show you the apartments before you pay one cent. I did that and it worked great. There is alot of good agencies in Buenos Aires that are really nice and want you to have a positive experience. One of the companies that I used was www.bytargentina.com and they were great in helping me find the right place.

Cheers!!
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Cynthia Edelberg
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Username: Morggan

Post Number: 23
Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 7:29 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I've been reluctant to advertise my apartment all these years since I first signed up to this forum. However, after seeing that many agencies use the forum to advertise themselves, I guess, maybe I shouldn'd be so picky and throw a card here too.
AN APARTMENT TO FALL IN LOVE WITH!
Yes, it's a jewel of an apartment.
Yes, you don't pay commission. It's rent by owner.
I live in the US so you pay in the US. Your money is safe.
See testimonials: I only get kudus from happy guests.
Please visit the website: www.austria2580.com
I hope you'll be my next guest. Thanks.
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Roberto
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Post Number: 1790
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 10:47 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

You are correct in that this is frowned upon. But given that the cat is out of the bag in this particular thread I should look the other side... Cynthia, does your dad sometimes teaches in Costa Rica? I know there are many Edelbergs but...
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RentingBA
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Username: Rentingba

Post Number: 5
Registered: 1-2008
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 11:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Try RentingBA

We rent high quality apartments in Buenos Aires. Some we own and some we manage. They all have WIFI broadband internet. They all come with free cell phone rentals. We also have optional WIFI phones with USA numbers and unlimited international calling upon request. You can pay via credit card or paypal in the US if you prefer. We are an American owned and managed rental agency.

(Message edited by admin on October 26, 2008)
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Roberto
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Post Number: 1791
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 12:10 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ok, guys.

This is getting out of hand. Members should make an effort not to abuse. Cynthia is NOT a company marketing her services but 1 person who owns 1 apartment who offers it for rent. There is a difference.

This one is getting closed.

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